Michael Voss senior coach since Sept 2021: Simmo to Blues

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 8417

GreatEx wrote:

Braithy wrote:

walsh having his 1 good qtr and then unable to break a tag had a huge impact at the opening of the 2nd qtr too. cerra invisible and hewett declining so rapidly my head is spinning.

but classic carlton logic:

lets sign walsh for 8 more years.

I'd have preferred 5 years but can't agree with your logic there Braithy, all the great midfielders can be quelled by a hard tag, the way you mitigate it is by having other weapons in there so that the oppo now finds itself having to stop the next guy, which may in turn give the first guy his freedom back. So we should be looking for another Walsh, not ditching the original for not being able to do the impossible.

Yep , spread the load .

CK95 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2026 5:20 pm

GWS wrote:

DocSherrin III wrote:

Sacking Voss in-season isn't the answer. The list can't accommodate the game. Just don't renew the Voss and Austin contract at years' end. Announce it Grand Final eve.

Not sure about the timing.

Surely that’d undermine our chances the following day…

They should announce it on the Thursday night. Just to get the bbq really pumping :lol:

Lowey_47 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 10, 2026 5:58 pm

I can't remember the exact details (too old) but almost seems like a barry Mitchell busted up at the back of the bus scenario

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TAFKA BamBam7 · **Joined:** Thu Apr 07, 2022 8:11 pm **Posts:** 963

GreatEx wrote:

Braithy wrote:

walsh having his 1 good qtr and then unable to break a tag had a huge impact at the opening of the 2nd qtr too. cerra invisible and hewett declining so rapidly my head is spinning.

but classic carlton logic:

lets sign walsh for 8 more years.

I'd have preferred 5 years but can't agree with your logic there Braithy, all the great midfielders can be quelled by a hard tag, the way you mitigate it is by having other weapons in there so that the oppo now finds itself having to stop the next guy, which may in turn give the first guy his freedom back. So we should be looking for another Walsh, not ditching the original for not being able to do the impossible.

Spot on.

How many times over the years have we bragged because an Aaron Joseph, or Alex Cincotta just shut down one of the game's best players?

Our players are not immune from the same thing happening to them. The onus is then on someone else to step up and take over.

Over time hopefully that will be Jagger, Walker and Kouta.

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17573

TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:

Over time hopefully that will be Jagger, Walker and Kouta.

Unlikely.

MPH78 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:03 pm

If only a journo had the balls to ask in the after match presser, Michael can you please advise the Carlton members and supporters, with factual evidence, why you should still be the head coach of Carlton?

Heavs · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:13 pm

I like how he's developed his confused look face. There are at least five variations of it now

Hornet · **Joined:** Sat May 21, 2005 5:15 pm **Posts:** 7724

#WeHaveToOwnIt
#HarderForLonger

Heavs · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:26 pm

We will go train that

DocSherrin III · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2005 2:09 pm **Posts:** 17573

MPH78 wrote:

If only a journo had the balls to ask in the after match presser, Michael can you please advise the Carlton members and supporters, with factual evidence, why you should still be the head coach of Carlton?

Easy answer: "I have a contract and until the board decide I'm not the coach, I'm the coach"

Hornet · **Joined:** Sat May 21, 2005 5:15 pm **Posts:** 7724

DocSherrin III wrote:

MPH78 wrote:

If only a journo had the balls to ask in the after match presser, Michael can you please advise the Carlton members and supporters, with factual evidence, why you should still be the head coach of Carlton?

Easy answer: "I have a contract and until the board decide I'm not the coach, I'm the coach"

Denis Pagan vibes... "I'm not going to abandon them"

MPH78 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:33 pm

DocSherrin III wrote:

MPH78 wrote:

If only a journo had the balls to ask in the after match presser, Michael can you please advise the Carlton members and supporters, with factual evidence, why you should still be the head coach of Carlton?

Easy answer: "I have a contract and until the board decide I'm not the coach, I'm the coach"

GW’s first major decision is a massive @#$%&! up and he needs to fix his mess now imho.

WOW · **Joined:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 pm **Posts:** 2117

Voss will be gone. Don’t be surprised if Austin is also gone.

This list is in terrible shape.

We will be in the wilderness for at least 5 - 10 years.

Watch membership plummet and instability return to the club.

Basket case.

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8345

11 wins from 38. Times up unfortunately. Sometime coaches get to a point where there is nothing more they can do for a club. This is one of those times. Gave us a thrill for 2 years and 16 matches the not getting through now and not evolving with the game as it evolves.

Richmond were like us for 37 years. Exactly the same. They just kept changing coaches until they found the right one in Hardwick. Not the way you want to do it but what do you do.

GreatEx · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2026 11:35 pm

jim wrote:

11 wins from 38. Times up unfortunately. Sometime coaches get to a point where there is nothing more they can do for a club. This is one of those times. Gave us a thrill for 2 years and 16 matches the not getting through now and not evolving with the game as it evolves.

Richmond were like us for 37 years. Exactly the same. They just kept changing coaches until they found the right one in Hardwick. Not the way you want to do it but what do you do.

Interesting to look at Hardwick's record and note that after 7 seasons he still had a losing record and hadn't won a single final. Then in the 8th year he got a flag. Obviously context matters and he may have been building from a low base, but when he went W8 L14 in year 7 after a couple of 15-win seasons, did anyone think he was the man? That's an open question, not rhetorical, I honestly don't remember.

bmaurizio · **Joined:** Thu May 05, 2005 10:49 am **Posts:** 1649

Yup both Voss and Austin need to go so that the massive task of rising from the ashes begins once again.
The last 2 decades have been a daze, let’s hope we have the competence in place to allow us to reclaim our dignity .
We’ll need 2 to 3 seasons yet, to approach finals. Let’s get it started no more skirting the issue.
Go Baggers

Braithy · **Joined:** Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm **Posts:** 7889

i dare say if voss isn't the coach last night we win ... for no other reason, than we are mentally fried in the 4th, and a new coach could and would shift this fragility by simply being there.

cripps is the worst captain in the comp, and offers zero leadership. weitering, not far behind, always sulking and walking around the back with his head down, uncommunicative to the young kids around him. and at the back they are all kids, who need a voice and a leader.

to think if the tigers and lynch kick straight, we lose that one, we wouldn't have a win on the board. and the first 6 weeks were the easy ones. yet, we've been in a position where we should right now be undefeated. even the swans game, we play the 3rd qtr like we did the first, we win.

now the pummellings start and what that will do for this playing group, will break them.

Lowey_47 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 17, 2026 9:20 am

You just have to look at a player such as pretty crappy old pony tatts membrane. Knew what to do, nailed it. Why, while we run around like headless chooks?

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keogh · **Joined:** Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am **Posts:** 6689

GreatEx wrote:

jim wrote:

11 wins from 38. Times up unfortunately. Sometime coaches get to a point where there is nothing more they can do for a club. This is one of those times. Gave us a thrill for 2 years and 16 matches the not getting through now and not evolving with the game as it evolves.

Richmond were like us for 37 years. Exactly the same. They just kept changing coaches until they found the right one in Hardwick. Not the way you want to do it but what do you do.

Interesting to look at Hardwick's record and note that after 7 seasons he still had a losing record and hadn't won a single final. Then in the 8th year he got a flag. Obviously context matters and he may have been building from a low base, but when he went W8 L14 in year 7 after a couple of 15-win seasons, did anyone think he was the man? That's an open question, not rhetorical, I honestly don't remember.

O’ Neill and Gale recognized Hardwick needed tactical support
2017 they got way better
It’s the board that changed things
Our board ate [REDACTED]

camel · **Posted:** Fri Apr 17, 2026 11:01 am

Adding some extra context to the above, there was a board challenge at the end of 2016 with the main challenge being to sakc Dimma, which was a pretty favourable view in the wider community too. Well done them for staying the course and coming good, but at the time plenty (including me) were laughing at Richmond.

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