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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 12:51 pm 
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Waaaaay too early predictions…

Primary List:
Adam Saad - delist/retire. Last of the perennial grumps.
Ben Camporeale - delist.
Billy Wilson - two years to become a midfielder.
Hudson O'Keeffe - two years to become a ruckman again.
Jordan Boyd - delist. Had every chance.
Lachlan Fogarty - delist. Good clubman. Hope he sticks around.
Lewis Young - one year. Ultimate cockroach.
Lucas Camporeale - delist.
Mitch McGovern (RFA) - delist/retire
Nic Newman (RFA) - one year, if he can.
Nick Haynes (UFA) - one year, if he can.
Oliver Hollands - three years.
Zachary Williams - delist/retire.

Cat A:
Elijah Hollands (UFA) - one year. Never anything more.
Flynn Young - two years.
Francis Evans (UFA) - two years.
Harry Charleson - two years to become a midfielder.

Cat B:
Rob Monahan - delist. Big strides this year, but we’re too desperate.
Matt Duffy - delist

Cat A - Supplemental:
Wade Derksen (UFA) - one year to rediscover himself as a forward.


Probably not ideal to be making so many holes when we’re about to get effed in the A at the draft. But, that’s the hand we’ve been dealt.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:39 pm 
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Not going to hate on Hayward and Ainsorth until I actually see them playing in the f50 for extended periods.

Heat maps suggest a lot of arc to arc...

#WeHaveToOwnThis #HarderForLonger

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 4:16 pm 
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.

Skills aren’t up to scratch. Getting older won’t fix that.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.
Cripps and Hewitt will be gone in a couple of years. These guys need to be the replacements.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 7:19 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.

Skills aren’t up to scratch. Getting older won’t fix that.


Yet you'll give Ollie 3 years?

Campo boys may not make it but others I'd delist first.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 7:44 pm 
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malbi wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.
Cripps and Hewitt will be gone in a couple of years. These guys need to be the replacements.

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I’m not sure you’re paying close enough attention.

Repeat speed, or precision. That’s the way forward for midfielders.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 7:51 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
Crusader wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.

Skills aren’t up to scratch. Getting older won’t fix that.


Yet you'll give Ollie 3 years?

Campo boys may not make it but others I'd delist first.

If they could get within cooee of Ollie, then yeah, he’d be out on his arse.

It’s not a witch hunt. Ben is an average speed inside mid with below average disposal. Lucas is an average speed wing/half back with below average disposal.

We’ve got to get sharper.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2026 11:15 pm 
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Wouldnt delist Boyd. Hes our best kick and we don’t have many of those.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
Wouldnt delist Boyd. Hes our best kick and we don’t have many of those.


This as well. :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
Wouldnt delist Boyd. Hes our best kick and we don’t have many of those.


100% this

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Crusader wrote:
malbi wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.
Cripps and Hewitt will be gone in a couple of years. These guys need to be the replacements.

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I’m not sure you’re paying close enough attention.

Repeat speed, or precision. That’s the way forward for midfielders.
Who else do we have?

Well there will be Cerra, Walsh, Lord, Smith and Walker. That's not enough though.

Cripps was always slow with questionable disposal and we persisted with him.

Half the battle is getting the ball. The other half is keeping it until you score.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Just to add, I feel the kids need to be reviewed by the new coach before moved on.
We have plenty on the other side that can make space.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2026 10:33 am 
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malbi wrote:
Crusader wrote:
malbi wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I refuse to believe the Camporeale boys are that bad that they should be delisted at the end of the year.

I'm not expecting them to be superstars, but they should be capable of being serviceable AFL footballers.

If we can't turn them into at least that, I dare say the problem is with the club, not the twins.
Cripps and Hewitt will be gone in a couple of years. These guys need to be the replacements.

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I’m not sure you’re paying close enough attention.

Repeat speed, or precision. That’s the way forward for midfielders.
Who else do we have?

Well there will be Cerra, Walsh, Lord, Smith and Walker. That's not enough though.

Cripps was always slow with questionable disposal and we persisted with him.

Half the battle is getting the ball. The other half is keeping it until you score.

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Now you are getting it.
If you are relying on 2 x at best C+ grade players to replace a once A grade mid and a B+ mid, we are screwed.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see them both to be guns, but they lack the speed and skill to compete against the best mids.
Jagga and Cody alone will keep them out of the midfield.
Maybe at the absolute most, Ben could be the slower inside defensive mid replacing Hewett.
But who knows what the game will look like in a couple of years.
At a guess, mids will have to be even more attacking, something we just don't have at the club.................dangerous goal kicking mids.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
Wouldnt delist Boyd. Hes our best kick and we don’t have many of those.

I just don’t see anything proactive about him where ‘best kick’ can become a damaging kick.

I guess we’ll soon see what Keays, Rachele & Rankine do to him - and whether he can land any blows of his own.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Crusader wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
Wouldnt delist Boyd. Hes our best kick and we don’t have many of those.

I just don’t see anything proactive about him where ‘best kick’ can become a damaging kick.

I guess we’ll soon see what Keays, Rachele & Rankine do to him - and whether he can land any blows of his own.
Maybe it's the age old workplace question...

Do you want someone who doesn't do much but does it very well, or do you want someone who does a lot but always buggers it up?

We have a lot of the latter...

Boyd stays.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2026 2:58 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
Waaaaay too early predictions…

Primary List:
Adam Saad - delist/retire. Last of the perennial grumps.
Ben Camporeale - delist.
Billy Wilson - two years to become a midfielder.
Hudson O'Keeffe - two years to become a ruckman again.
Jordan Boyd - delist. Had every chance.
Lachlan Fogarty - delist. Good clubman. Hope he sticks around.
Lewis Young - one year. Ultimate cockroach.
Lucas Camporeale - delist.
Mitch McGovern (RFA) - delist/retire
Nic Newman (RFA) - one year, if he can.
Nick Haynes (UFA) - one year, if he can.
Oliver Hollands - three years.
Zachary Williams - delist/retire.

Cat A:
Elijah Hollands (UFA) - one year. Never anything more.
Flynn Young - two years.
Francis Evans (UFA) - two years.
Harry Charleson - two years to become a midfielder.

Cat B:
Rob Monahan - delist. Big strides this year, but we’re too desperate.
Matt Duffy - delist

Cat A - Supplemental:
Wade Derksen (UFA) - one year to rediscover himself as a forward.


Probably not ideal to be making so many holes when we’re about to get effed in the A at the draft. But, that’s the hand we’ve been dealt.


Thanks for putting in the time to draw a line in the sand. It’s a starting point.
All the contracts above will be discussed at the end of the year.
At this stage of the season, I have no problem with your position.
I’d probably keep Campo twins for another year, but I agree they lack a lot of what we need.

However, we are all aware there’s 20 more games to play and a lot of players are in bad form, even Kemp who kicked 3 goals, last game: he was lucky in that game and he needs to show consistency to be a reliable player.

The ‘new’ team and ‘new’ game plan havent worked…yet. Preseason form showed some signs of a change for the better, but there’s something really missing, and it’s always obvious in the last quarter. What that is will either be fixed or it won’t. If it’s doesn’t improve by round 14 or so, some BIG decisions and changes need to be made about coach and the abovementioned.

We have a core group to build from. Not sure what needs to be done with Harry to rekindle his best. Ditto Weitering. He ain’t taking enough intercept marks if that’s been his new role whilst Young takes on the No 1 forward.

Young is cheap and great to have in the VFL building confidence, unless we can find another genuine similar KPD type for depth. Hoping OFarrell is ready in 2027.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2026 6:21 pm 
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GWS wrote:
keogh wrote:
Ollie Florent
Let’s be honest
He is a list clogger
Another one
Sign him for 5 years on over average wagers
He can’t kick that’s why he was dropped last year
What is wrong with this club
I assume our list management team wanted this Voss wanted it and Diesel
Convinced the board
With Wright and Davies blessing
That’s [REDACTED]


People are always talking about how Sydney is a well run club.

Florent played 184 games for them.
7 finals
2 grand finals

They must have seen something in him over his nine years at the club.

Or are they poor list managers too?


Early days but Florent is third in AFL for turnovers the only player in the top 9 who isn’t a mid
Well done List Management team and of course Diesel


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Can't see the AFL relaxing the FS's rules after upcoming changes anytime soon.
Maybe after all our FS have been drafted they will review and soften them again.


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