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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 2:06 pm 
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Voss and Austin need to be gone it’s their list I have no confidence in either of them to many poor decisions in who they recruit and still can’t work out why they let Kennedy go he was coming in to he’s prime but instead Voss wanted him gone told him no spot in our midfield but yet he is playing midfield with probably one of the better midfield group in the AFL in hindsight Cripps and Hewitt should have been offered to other clubs both into their 30


It shows Voss has no idea, in that Kennedy can play multiple positions and Hewett can’t. Dumb and dumber running the club and letting him make decisions such as these.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 2:36 pm 
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Just leave this here for people whining about it being the players:

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And that might be what defines Carlton's impending Voss decision.

The personnel has changed so much – Sunday's defeat featured seven players who didn't kick a ball for the Blues last season and a further five who played 10 games or less – and yet the side's identity has barely changed.

Fast start, slowed, then completely overrun. The same Carlton.


https://www.afl.com.au/news/1487735/fas ... fatal-flaw


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 8:52 pm 
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yep.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2026 10:16 pm 
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Nah, it's not the players, even when the players say it's the players. :banghead:

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"I don't know what it looked like today, but it feels like we tend to go safe in those moments and we don't take the game on," Blues skipper Patrick Cripps said after the lamentable loss to the Demons.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 7:35 am 
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Nah, it's not the players, even when the players say it's the players. :banghead:

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"I don't know what it looked like today, but it feels like we tend to go safe in those moments and we don't take the game on," Blues skipper Patrick Cripps said after the lamentable loss to the Demons.



when a coach is under siege, and you know he's a beesdick away from getting fired. have you ever in all your time around afl heard players say anything different other than blame us, not the coach?


it's spin 101. pure spin, if you will. only the terribly naive or gullible can believe it.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 7:50 am 
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What Patrick is quoted is actually a fact.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 8:52 am 
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windy wrote:
What Patrick is quoted is actually a fact.

Well, apparently that is only a fact for us 'gullible' types.
When I put my tin foil hat on what Cripps is actually saying is:

Even though I am a 2 x Brownlow medalist, Captain for my club and an All Australian footballer, I don't know how to set up at stoppages.
So I 100% rely on the stoppage and structure coach, then the midfield coach and ultimately the head coach's instructions, to tell me where to stand and what to do.
I don't need autonomy as they already know what to do as they have played the game at this level before me.
And I sure as hell don't pick up on the loss of energy or change of mindset with the players around me, that is why I am the Captain.
I secretly hate the coaches for making us lose, can't wait for them all to be moved on, again. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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windy wrote:
What Patrick is quoted is actually a fact.


nah.


imagine if he threw another player or coach under the bus and said player x isn't doing his work and is lazy, self centred etc, or coach x, is a dinosaur with his outdated ideas which suck, or coach x isn't coaching us clearly. etc etc

players and of them, none more then captains, are media trained internally to toe the line. not be controversial and not to go into too much detail.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2026 11:07 am 
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I repeat, what Patrick said is a fact.

It is obvious that the players try to protect their lead in the second halves, instead of extend it by continuing to play as they did in the first halves, ie offensively

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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I thought our second half play was most offensive....!

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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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Only option is to blow the place up. Trade out Cripps, Weiters, McKay and start again


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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jake_h03 wrote:
Only option is to blow the place up. Trade out Cripps, Weiters, McKay and start again


Cripps and McKay would get you a third rounder and a packet of salt and vinegar chips.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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DocSherrin III wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Only option is to blow the place up. Trade out Cripps, Weiters, McKay and start again


Cripps and McKay would get you a third rounder and a packet of salt and vinegar chips.


You say that about all our players, yet here we are with three first rounders and two 150-gamers for Curnow and a couple of seconds.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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DocSherrin III wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Only option is to blow the place up. Trade out Cripps, Weiters, McKay and start again


Cripps and McKay would get you a third rounder and a packet of salt and vinegar chips.



of all the chips out there, though. salt n vinegar are the most superior.


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 Post subject: List Management 2026
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2026 10:49 am 
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If we keep losing, we will get a new coach and perhaps we'll only have to give up 1 first rounder for Cody!

Seriously, it is an absolute outrage that we have had to give up 2 first rounders for Dean and are going to have to give up two first rounders for Cody.
One year after Gold Coast was able to pick up multiple first rounders, as did Brisbane, and only a couple of years after Brisbane could pick up a raft of premium father sons whilst at the top-end of the ladder, and collingwood got nick daicos for way unders. Not to mention, the AFL granting West Coast a freebie with the Oscar Allen compensation. And similar when they enable Gold Coast to pick up Rowell and Anderson because they were mates.

So, in a nutshell, Brisbane, Gold Coast and West Coast have been effectively been handed 'half-price' top 10 draftees, while Carlton, Essendon* and Port are going to have to pay double.

And... although Harry Dean is a great pick up, I very much doubt he would have been picked up or bidded at no.3 if he wasn't linked to Carlton. I do not believe for a second that no-one really wanted Daicos until pick 4 (although, I will grant that it looks to have been an amazing year for top end talent...).


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2026 11:06 am 
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If we keep losing, we will get a new coach and perhaps we'll only have to give up 1 first rounder for Cody!

Seriously, it is an absolute outrage that we have had to give up 2 first rounders for Dean and are going to have to give up two first rounders for Cody.
One year after Gold Coast was able to pick up multiple first rounders, as did Brisbane, and only a couple of years after Brisbane could pick up a raft of premium father sons whilst at the top-end of the ladder, and collingwood got nick daicos for way unders. Not to mention, the AFL granting West Coast a freebie with the Oscar Allen compensation. And similar when they enable Gold Coast to pick up Rowell and Anderson because they were mates.

So, in a nutshell, Brisbane, Gold Coast and West Coast have been effectively been handed 'half-price' top 10 draftees, while Carlton, Essendon** and Port are going to have to pay double.

And... although Harry Dean is a great pick up, I very much doubt he would have been picked up or bidded at no.3 if he wasn't linked to Carlton. I do not believe for a second that no-one really wanted Daicos until pick 4 (although, I will grant that it looks to have been an amazing year for top end talent...).

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It is pretty demoralising and with Tassie joining the competition I just can't see how we are going to be able to recruit enough young talent to become a top 4 team and premiership contender.
I hope we never forget West Coast's early bid on Dean and return the favour some time in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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it is an outrage. even eddie bloody mcguire is saying what is happening to foundational clubs in bummers and us is egregious and wrong. and the FS draft implications should be announced now, but shouldn't come into play until the draft year of tassie's inclusion.

you know shit is messed up if mcguire is beating his drums for us and Essendon*


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2026 11:29 am 
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windy wrote:
I repeat, what Patrick said is a fact.

It is obvious that the players try to protect their lead in the second halves, instead of extend it by continuing to play as they did in the first halves, ie offensively


Agree. Unfortunately, it's a coaching directive to 'defend for longer' if needed. Opposition know we try to defend and not attack because that is what we are told to do!!!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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windy wrote:
I repeat, what Patrick said is a fact.

It is obvious that the players try to protect their lead in the second halves, instead of extend it by continuing to play as they did in the first halves, ie offensively


Agree. Unfortunately, it's a coaching directive to 'defend for longer' if needed. Opposition know we try to defend and not attack because that is what we are told to do!!!


And how do you know that is what the coaches have directed the players to do?

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