when i see this i feel better about us. there is some talent there and then we get Walker and a few more.
i reckon we need to start playing these names as soon as we can and move past many of the older guys

Exactly. We have some good kids and talent.

Jordan Butts is a free agent at the end of this year. Good size, in good form. Bring him back to the club his Dad played for.

Jordan Butts is a free agent at the end of this year. Good size, in good form. Bring him back to the club his Dad played for.

I like that. Toby Greene is out of contract also, just saying

OMFG.

We don't know what Geelong actually proposed as a trade and never will. It was pure media speculation.

But I'm very confident they wouldn't have given 3 first rounders without demanding something back in return like second rounders.

Andrew Mackie is notorious to deal with and we're kidding ourselves thinking they would've just given 3 first rounders for Charlie with nothing else demanded back.

Even the initial media reports from Sydney were "two first rounders, Hayward and Florent" - there was no talk of us sending second rounders back the other way.

The media headlines focus on the main component and not the ancillary steak knives and finer details of the deal. Stop being so emotional and use logic. Please.

I think we will see more of these long contracts given the way the salaries are changing.
The amount offered to TDK will be the norm soon and locking in your key players for as long as you can is a smart move.
And if they want to move like Charlie did, the club holds the whip and can get the best deal for both parties instead of leaving a corrupt governing organisation to give hand outs.

For those complaining about the length of the contract, I'm guessing you were happy letting go of a 1.7m player for pick #9 vs what we got for Charlie.
I know what I would rather get.

will be very hard to get now... he's playing hot.

I like to keep a track of ex-Blues playing elsewhere.

Interestingly TDK, Stoker and J Carrol all featured in the bottom 10 player in the Saints v Lions game (ranked by AF points). Silvagni was IIRC 5th best (by AF ranking) Saints player to half time. fell off a bit after HT.

Three goals to Jack Martin including kicking the sealer this week with a nice ground ball get on the run and goal. Growth player?!

On balance, recent trades and delistings working in our favour (Charlie copping heat now he's at Swans and not doing much after Q1 most games, same as at Blues. Riley Beverage brought up interesting stats on AFL.com this week).

Saints will live to regret the money they paid for TDK, mark my words. Maybe they had the space and front ended his deal a lot, in which case not too much lost other than other players they could have got. But they needed to convince Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera to stay, (and Ross Lyons needs more wins to keep his job) and I bet TDK was a big part of that convincing. Question will be who else could they have brought over with that kind of money?

Maybe but he's an unrestricted free agent. If he wants to walk, they can't stop him.

Saints recruited in the hope of snagging a flag.

I think they are not a top 8 team let alone a top 4 team.

Hence, they will be in a lot of cap pain in 2-3 years if they don't win a flag in that time. In 2 years time Naz relieves Sainst of $2M, but that will be spent on player retention, or will have to be applied on Naz to retain hiim.

Saints recruited in the hope of snagging a flag.

I think they are not a top 8 team let alone a top 4 team.

Hence, they will be in a lot of cap pain in 2-3 years if they don't win a flag in that time. In 2 years time Naz relieves Sainst of $2M, but that will be spent on player retention, or will have to be applied on Naz to retain hiim.

Voss and Austin need to be gone it’s their list I have no confidence in either of them to many poor decisions in who they recruit and still can’t work out why they let Kennedy go he was coming in to he’s prime but instead Voss wanted him gone told him no spot in our midfield but yet he is playing midfield with probably one of the better midfield group in the AFL in hindsight Cripps and Hewitt should have been offered to other clubs both into their 30