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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2026 5:19 pm 
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That is a valid point.
This all stems from our midfield issues IMO.


Or maybe his half arsed efforts and dropping his head when things don't go his way are the problem? He averages more one on one contests than any other forward in the AFL so he's getting opportunities. For a bloke who is 200cm+ and carries plenty of size, he has been poor in the contest for quite a while. Averaging 25% 1 on 1 contest wins this season puts him behind every decent key forward in the game. Thilthorpe, Amartey and Naughtin average 50%. That's what you want from a key forward. To win the ball or at least get it to ground from at least half your contests. Not to meekly lose the contest.
Charlie is copping a lot of shit this year but he's winning over 47% of his 1 on 1 contests and averages more than 3 times as many tackles as Harry. Harry hasn't had 1 inside 50 tackle this season.
Some of His efforts against Tom McCartin were embarrassing.

So I'm not against Harry playing forward. But he is better suited IMO when he can lead into space and mark the footy. Not where smart defenders can easily outbody him. His outlet option leads for our defenders are very good. His poor kicking at goal isn't so exposed when he's up the ground as well. So IMO, let him play as a high forward which suits his pace/athleticism and try other options closer to goal. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I'd try Derksen and just ask him to compete.


Yep , anchoring Harry in the goal square would be crazy . Play to his strengths as you have pointed out BV . Make the most of what you've got .



Yes playing to a coleman medalist's strength outside the ff.
Shit coaching and nothing else.
Put him inside 50 with nothing else around him and see how he blitzes.

btw, winning 47% of your one on ones is losing, especially when heeney, warner, gluden ect are kicking it to you.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2026 5:47 pm 
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GWS wrote:
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Apparently at training today, Cripps was kicking at goals instead of participating in the match sims.
Newman, Saad, Cerra and Haynes looked good, Frankie participated the whole session but with a heavily strapped knee and McLovin was training with the forwards.
Cottrell still not ready and Dean was caught in a sling tackle but is ok.



Was Harry retrieving the balls :razz:

Nah.....he was too far up the ground to get near them. :lol:


I doubt there would have been many to collect from directly behind the goals anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:25 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
That is a valid point.
This all stems from our midfield issues IMO.


Or maybe his half arsed efforts and dropping his head when things don't go his way are the problem? He averages more one on one contests than any other forward in the AFL so he's getting opportunities. For a bloke who is 200cm+ and carries plenty of size, he has been poor in the contest for quite a while. Averaging 25% 1 on 1 contest wins this season puts him behind every decent key forward in the game. Thilthorpe, Amartey and Naughtin average 50%. That's what you want from a key forward. To win the ball or at least get it to ground from at least half your contests. Not to meekly lose the contest.
Charlie is copping a lot of shit this year but he's winning over 47% of his 1 on 1 contests and averages more than 3 times as many tackles as Harry. Harry hasn't had 1 inside 50 tackle this season.
Some of His efforts against Tom McCartin were embarrassing.

So I'm not against Harry playing forward. But he is better suited IMO when he can lead into space and mark the footy. Not where smart defenders can easily outbody him. His outlet option leads for our defenders are very good. His poor kicking at goal isn't so exposed when he's up the ground as well. So IMO, let him play as a high forward which suits his pace/athleticism and try other options closer to goal. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I'd try Derksen and just ask him to compete.

All fair points, I get why you want him moving down the ground.
It also get's him more involved in the play, maybe it'll bring some form back.
I fear he's just another player on our list brought in to play a role and can't deliver to the standard required.
Last year I said I would've traded him, but then Charlie left.
If we got King or Walter we could've traded both.

I'd like to see Derksen get a go also, maybe if we drop HOK, Harry can relief ruck a little.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:57 pm 
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It’s funny….

the best and strongest marks I’ve seen Harry take…
have been on the wing…why’s that…?

In the forward line he drops chest marks…peculiar…

I don’t have the answers…NO idea…it’s just weird…

what if we threw him at CHB for a bit…?

like I said…I don’t know…..


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 7:59 am 
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maybe it's all between his ears.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:05 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Assuming Haynes Newman Saad Cerra Wilson Evans are all fit for selection.

IN: Haynes Derksen Newman Cerra Saad Boyd
OUT: Dean Cowan O'Keefe Chesser Fogarty Ollie

Melbourne have a Giant 207cm ruckman in Gawn. He starts the play for them.
Only Pitto can go with him...and hurt him. Pitto plays a very physical game and can only play 60% these days.
I prefer Young to give the chop out vs Gawn for 10 mins per quarter.

Melbourne have Petty as their tallest KP forward or back, so we dont really need a big KPD, we need more mobile talls, and Derksen haynes Kemp and Gov give us that.

B: Boyd Weitering Haynes
HB: Florent Derksen Saad ......Newman

R: Pittonet Walsh Smith...........Cerra Lord Hewett
C: Carroll Cripps E.Hollands

HF: Hayward McKay Ainsworth
F: Williams McGovern Kemp......Young

Want more speed and better kicking from backline.

Williams and Ainsworth mix it up with mids.

Was 50-50 bringing back Acres on the wing for Elijah, but Acres hasnt played many minutes this preseason.

Byrne isn't running out VFL games let alone AFL, so need to build him up his emgine before he comes into the team.
If he was a 3 qtr player I'm sure he would have been selected ahead of Fogarty, and spend 30 minutes on the bench.

Dropped Cowan for his constant kicking long bombs to a pack rather than running the ball out using his pace; his asset

I love Ollie's pace and stamina but he is another who needs to take his kicking more serious.
Message is you are an AFL footballer, but you must concentrate more on your kicking. Work on that in the VFL.

Actually its a toss up for me between Lord and Ollie because Lord was bombing it in 2nd half too, as he tired? and Hewett is ahead of Lord as an inside mid.
I'll give the nod to a midfielder. If Williams spent more time as a midfielder, I'd pick a goal kicker in Evans ahead of Ollie and Lord for this game.

Chesser may have been fatigued from a lot of running, hence looked a bit slow a couple times as his opponent closed down space in the chase, but went with Elijah in the hope he finally shakes the cobwebs and shows some consistency with his field kicking, and kicks a goal or two. I don't expect goals from Chesser.

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im with you on the above team BB......including having Young up forward and as second ruck.

as you say Ollie, Cowan, Chesser maybe be outs and you could make an argument for it to go the other way with Newman, Cerra, Elijah


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:11 am 
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Braithy wrote:
maybe it's all between his ears.


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Adam Cerra to miss again for Carlton this week. The Blues have a five-day turnaround ahead of Good Friday and will give the hamstrung midfielder another week to prepare. @AFLcomau

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:21 am 
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Braithy wrote:
maybe it's all between his ears.



True…..

having said that…for something to be between the
ears…something has to be between the ears….


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:22 am 
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Adam Cerra to miss again for Carlton this week. The Blues have a five-day turnaround ahead of Good Friday and will give the hamstrung midfielder another week to prepare. @AFLcomau


Maybe we should send him back to Dubai…

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:36 am 
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The Demons have used Tholstrup as a tagger to begin the season.

He kept NWM to 18 disposals in round 1 (although NWM went forward and kicked 3), then kept C Serong to 16 last week.

Would expect him to go to Walsh or Smith.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:37 am 
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tommi wrote:
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maybe it's all between his ears.



True…..

having said that…for something to be between the
ears…something has to be between the ears….


kindest regards tommi

Well it doesn't seem to be testicle fortitude.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:38 am 
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GWS wrote:
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Riley Beveridge
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Adam Cerra to miss again for Carlton this week. The Blues have a five-day turnaround ahead of Good Friday and will give the hamstrung midfielder another week to prepare. @AFLcomau


Maybe we should send him back to Dubai…

That could open up a position in the MSD.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:44 am 
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Braithy wrote:
maybe it's all between his ears.

Voss is between his ears? :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 10:50 am 
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Adam Cerra to miss again for Carlton this week. The Blues have a five-day turnaround ahead of Good Friday and will give the hamstrung midfielder another week to prepare. @AFLcomau


Maybe we should send him back to Dubai…



:lol:

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Update

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1484359

Nic Newman, like Cerra, is another expected to be a victim of Carlton having a bye at both AFL and VFL level last weekend, as the defender sets his eyes on a long-awaited comeback.

Newman hasn't played for the Blues since September 2024, having ruptured his patella 15 months ago and having missed the start of this season after earning a two-match suspension for an incident in a VFL practice match.

Adam Saad (hamstring) is available, though, while last year's No.45 pick Talor Byrne is seen as a chance to potentially make his AFL debut against Melbourne after an impressive pre-season.

"[Newman] hasn't got a body of work under his belt yet," Voss said.

"There's a couple of guys like that, who are returning but not necessarily available. He's certainly available to play, but if you're talking about match fitness and time out on the grass, he had an unfortunate suspension. That took his minutes out on the grass away.

"But they're coming quick. It is certainly nice to know that you've got really strong availability. With that availability, we obviously want to get the consistency. There's got to be competition for spots as well. That can really drive us to be better."

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17 day break then a 5 day break.
How good's the AFL fixture.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 11:35 am 
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250TH for Maxy. Geez.....


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 11:52 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
250TH for Maxy. Geez.....


I felt we were a chance until I heard this.
Our boys will be too busy getting caught up in the occassion, that they will be lining up a guard of honour and high fiving Max before they even play the game of football.
There goes the 4 points…..


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2026 12:20 pm 
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some super interesting footage on fox about gunston ... and how the brilliant minds at hawks coaching, are keeping gunston in the square all by himself.

no doubt hawks small ball plays into all this. they have the cattle. but my take is ... some creative coaching could absolutely set harry up I50 to be successful


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