Here we go again... what do WCE have to gain with vexatious bids, and why Carlton in particular?

It's only 12 months since the reigning premiers picked up the consensus best player in the draft at #5.

Can’t blame anyone at Carlton for this position as it was the AFL who CHANGED the f/S rules and NGA Rules in2025 which now provides incentives for other clubs particularly the lowly ranked ones to match bids with alacrity

This is also exacerbated by the fact that 2026 is a much better draft and the AFL have announced further changes to draft rules in 2026 without actually announcing them which are more stringent for f/s candidates and further incentivise other clubs to match bids.
Coupled with the fact that we have a great father son prospect this year an NGA talent this year and hopefully a generational talent next year going early in the draft this has made 2025 draft manoeuvres tricky

Let’s get Dean and ISON in the door hopefully another early pick for next year for Cody and another player with a pick hopefully in the 30s

Hardly a disaster in my view

As for not picking up Dean absolutely not KPD very talented from all reports exactly what we need and some saying ready to play senior football next year - apparently like his father who would walk over broken glass to play for Carlton
We desperately need that toughness and grit

Even if we get Dean and ISON only in this draft we now have a plethora of young’s players on our list under 21 let’s go forward with guys that really want to play at Carlton

SB I have pondered your argument some more.

Which players would you like to pick at 9 and 11 or 12 and 14 if that's where they fall?

Which of those players you recommend are guaranteed to impact in the first 3 year?

If none are guaranteed to impact...........why pick anyone at all? Why not just pass and pick up any or all of those players in 2 or 3 years from their current clubs. By then they will be prime pickings. And if they aren't prime, then we don't bother picking them.

Now I think about it, this plan becomes a win, win for Austin and the Club. He doesn't have to put his manhood on the line picking people that might fail, he just picks and chooses who he wants in 3 years based on their upward trajectory. @#$ing brilliant.

Yep brilliant.........................no flaws in that cunning plan Baldrick.

Regards Cazzesman

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Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

SB now tell us your plan for Cody............................this is exciting.

Should we let Richmond warm him up for a few years?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Ah… but Cazz that’s the problem!

We shouldn’t be going to the draft at all.

We should have swapped our picks for Bailey Smith, Zak Butters, Lachie Neale, Nick Daicos, Marcus Bontempelli and the Ashcroft brothers.

And kept two guys who got offered massive overs for half their salaries and one who’s a big sook who only puts in about 40% of the time.

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Just remind me how it's all working out.
I don't follow school kids around to see how high they jump its not my job.
But I have managed to keep my staff on board and add further talent to it.
In fact of the 145 staff I am in charge of the average years at the company is 13.6
There wouldn't be to many around who could boast that.

Now as for our disastrous list manager.
Stkilda went in trade period attracted TDk Flanders JSOS and Henry.
They had NWM Wilkie Winhager and Marshall all explored their options and wanted out.

Merret wanted out of Essendon*
Simpkin wanted out of North.

Good list managers keep their good players and attract quality from other clubs.




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Does anyone truly believe vexatious bids are a thing?

OK, Essendon* with JSOS was a bit of a laugh, but I honestly don't think such a lack of professionalism is likely.

If you bid, you have to want the player.

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Congratulations CK95

The second we trade out of 9 & 11, WCE will no longer be interested in bidding on Dean.
Bidding on Dean pushes their mid-teens pick higher which gives them a better choice of the kids available.

Get vexatious….!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Bloody anti-vexers...

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You dont realise that they have to bid on Dean first for the trade to happen.
You don't trade your picks unless they bid.

Really? We can do the trade while we’re on the clock AFTER a team places their bid??
Ok, if true, that puts us in a much better position. Last year, I thought the Bombers traded away their top 10 pick because they were expecting an early bid for Kako but the bid came later than they expected and so they kind of blew the opportunity to get a top 10 pick PLUS Kako?

So, I haven’t thought this through but… could Essendon* place a bid on Harry at, say, pick 5 and then we do a trade with them? (Not sure how that would be of benefit to us but could that happen?)

Depends who you’re trading it to.

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

SOS also gave up Jack Steele for a 3rd rounder, which suggests to me he still doesn't know how to build a midfield. We'll see if this is the year he turns around his track record of utter failure.

I don’t think you need to have experience in List Management to know that the system is flawed
Not having enough soft cap money doesn’t help but so many kids and mature early 20 year olds get overlooked because they arnt academy picks father son picks or didn’t go to a private school

But do you need to have experience in List Management to know how to work your way around the flawed system and make it work for your club?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Well the fact that you’re not allowed to use hindsight when making your picks is definitely a problem that needs a solution.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.