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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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OMG, i just found a Twin Brother I never knew I had.... has anyone heard this Passionate Carlton fan before? :grin: :grin:




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Congrats on him having the brass balls to go on youtube and vent. Alas opinions are like "O". Nobody cares about his angst but :clap: for displaying it to the world.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:29 am 
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london blue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Charlie kicked 32 goals this year from 18 games.
Hayward kicked 29 from 20. Ainswerth 23 goals.
I am confident we will more than cover for Curnow with better spread of goal kickers, better forward defence, and less sooking. And a bit more of the Sydney work ethic won’t go astray either.
With Curnow gone, Voss and the players up the field will be forced to look more for a leading player rather than just bomb it long.

And let’s see how we use our first round picks leading up to and potentially during the draft.

Whilst I would have loved to get Humphrey, I think we tend to be too focused on bringing in star players.
We’ve had the equal of any team’s star players over the past 5 years. What we’ve been missing is that next tier and evenness across the field, and depth. That is what we have brought in during this trade period IMO. And we’ve shored up picks for Walker and given ourselves lots of scope for upcoming and future trading periods and drafts.

Love this

Yes I think we've done the right thing by trading Charlie and ended up with a good deal considering his age and injury history.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:33 am 
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https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/1916 ... 0522410001

I know this was posted before but for those that haven't seen it, and are filthy, disheartened, and generally slashing your wrists about the trade period, please watch it.

Davies couldn't be any clearer with what the club wanted to achieve and how they went about it. All the media speculation means Sweet FA, if you listen closely to what he says.

Listen between the lines.

Charlie didn't want to be at Carlton, so why keep him when the eventual offer was so good.
The Bulldogs didn't want to let Buku go.
The players we have bought in want to be at Carlton
Now the dust is about to settle, the Club will see about filling holes.
The Future picks we have now, put us in good stead for Tasmania coming in.

What he hasn't said is - We have war chest of $ for Butters, that can hopefully blow any Port matching out of the water.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:36 am 
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Frank Carspew wrote:
Hi dont get the doom in here
2026 is going to be exciting Florent Chesser Hayward and Ainsworth all certainties in round 1 if fit
Dean maybe also
Set ourselves to get Dean and Ison and maybe another young gun

Walker closer to coming with the AFL changing the rules

2 2027 first rounders and 2 2026 first rounders

2 2027 first rounders maybe trade to Essendon** so they can get Bewick and give us snother 2026 pick

Picks we gave back to Swans chump change

Who wasnts a vice captain cycling to footy saying up yours and then cant get a kick on Toby Pink

Do we want a vice captain who doesnt seem to want to chase what does that signal to young players

Do we need a vice captain who is entertaining a trade to Geelong in May
Do we want a leader of our club hanging around with Bailey Somith


Great footballers but a complete DH Im over him and I want a multi dimensional forward adding a different dynamic

Cmon we also got Florent for a steal and didnt get legged over on him being included as part of the trade


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:39 am 
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Frank Carspew wrote:
Hi dont get the doom in here
2026 is going to be exciting Florent Chesser Hayward and Ainsworth all certainties in round 1 if fit
Dean maybe also
Set ourselves to get Dean and Ison and maybe another young gun

Walker closer to coming with the AFL changing the rules

2 2027 first rounders and 2 2026 first rounders

2 2027 first rounders maybe trade to Essendon** so they can get Bewick and give us snother 2026 pick

Picks we gave back to Swans chump change

Who wasnts a vice captain cycling to footy saying up yours and then cant get a kick on Toby Pink

Do we want a vice captain who doesnt seem to want to chase what does that signal to young players

Do we need a vice captain who is entertaining a trade to Geelong in May
Do we want a leader of our club hanging around with Bailey Somith


Great footballers but a complete DH Im over him and I want a multi dimensional forward adding a different dynamic

Cmon we also got Florent for a steal and didnt get legged over on him being included as part of the trade


Stop making sense.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:45 am 
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TDK - Went for massive dollars and good on him.

SOS - Wanted out and got offered silly dollars and 5 years . Turns 28 in December. Played 16 games in 2023, 0 in 2024 with ACL and 13 in 2025.

Charlie wanted out and we got a historic return for him as he turns 29 in Feb 2026 and has injury concerns.

So the guy in the Youtube video really needs to base his thoughts on facts and not whatever he was smoking.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:46 am 
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Getting Ainsworth Florent and Hayward would have been good if we didn't lose JSOS TDk and Charlie.
We are 9 players out Cincotta Orazio Lemmey Doc Durdin Elijah JSOS TDK and Charlie.
We have brought 5 in and there are quite a few still without contact.

If there was any doubt last year that we were in yet another rebuild there is absolutely no doubt now.

It takes years to recover from rebuilding

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Yep.

People bag Voss but my concern is the recruiting/Austin are not good enough.

SOS was 'ok' but not good enough picking the smalls. Austin is 'ok' but ok isn't enough for a premiership.

The successful teams add to the talent they have....whereas at Carlton it seems like a constant churn.

Some clubs are also blessed by the injury gods (Geelong) whereas Carlton is cursed.

I don't think people consider the talent other teams keep adding.

As I have posted elsewhere, Carlton also has to deal with the Marvel handicap.

If the club is really serious about winning a premiership it needs to increase the MCG home game split as soon as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:46 am 
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Finally the adults are in charge. Excellent
trading period. Held firm for x3 first round picks and a player.
Refused to overpay for Buku. Have a plan and execute.
The Swans are one Charlie knee injury away from imploding. Huge gamble to give up x 3 first rounders and create disharmony in the dressing shed. I sense our 2026 and 2027 F1st picks we secured from them will be very valuable in the next two years.
I wonder how much the bombers would be willing to pay for one of them to secure their 2027 FS.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:50 am 
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17th Premiership wrote:
Charlie kicked 32 goals this year from 18 games.
Hayward kicked 29 from 20. Ainswerth 23 goals.
I am confident we will more than cover for Curnow with better spread of goal kickers, better forward defence, and less sooking. And a bit more of the Sydney work ethic won’t go astray either.
With Curnow gone, Voss and the players up the field will be forced to look more for a leading player rather than just bomb it long.

And let’s see how we use our first round picks leading up to and potentially during the draft.

Whilst I would have loved to get Humphrey, I think we tend to be too focused on bringing in star players.
We’ve had the equal of any team’s star players over the past 5 years. What we’ve been missing is that next tier and evenness across the field, and depth. That is what we have brought in during this trade period IMO. And we’ve shored up picks for Walker and given ourselves lots of scope for upcoming and future trading periods and drafts.



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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:01 am 
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We got rid of 3 entitled players. TDK, JSOS and Charlie. All besties.

Wonder what Davies meant by Charlies big personality and its effect on the players in the locker room. Hmmmm think there is something in that. And what Weitering and Walsh have been saying no bullshit and people who dont want to be here comments.

Not a team of superstars anymore, but hopefully players working hard in their role.

Its what successful teams have.

Have always wondered with the good players we have why we are not successful and this is the moment i am hoping to realise we all need to change our mentality.

Sure i was upset about Curnow being traded. Sure im worried about our KPP Forward stocks, but we need a reset and try something different.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:02 am 
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https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/19160 ... rlton-fans

Regards Cazzesman

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:22 am 
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Those 2 2027 picks, we should be able to trade them into 2028 for Walker's brother?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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CK95 wrote:
Those 2 2027 picks, we should be able to trade them into 2028 for Walker's brother?


Now you are thinking CK. :thumbsup: :clap: :donk:

Regards Cazzesman

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:27 am 
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Cazzesman wrote:
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/1916041/it-gives-us-great-flexibility-davies-after-trade-period-close?videoId=1916041&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1760522410001

I know this was posted before but for those that haven't seen it, and are filthy, disheartened, and generally slashing your wrists about the trade period, please watch it.

Davies couldn't be any clearer with what the club wanted to achieve and how they went about it. All the media speculation means Sweet FA, if you listen closely to what he says.

Listen between the lines.

Charlie didn't want to be at Carlton, so why keep him when the eventual offer was so good.
The Bulldogs didn't want to let Buku go.
The players we have bought in want to be at Carlton
Now the dust is about to settle, the Club will see about filling holes.
The Future picks we have now, put us in good stead for Tasmania coming in.

What he hasn't said is - We have war chest of $ for Butters, that can hopefully blow any Port matching out of the water.

Regards Cazzesman

Yes I've been impressed by Chris Davies so far.
He seems to be a smart operator.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Cannot wait to see next year unfold - I haven't liked our forward set up for years. I haven't liked our lack of pace. Both have now changed.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:37 am 
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Our bottom six has improved by a fair bit.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:38 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:
We got rid of 3 entitled players. TDK, JSOS and Charlie. All besties.

Wonder what Davies meant by Charlies big personality and its effect on the players in the locker room. Hmmmm think there is something in that. And what Weitering and Walsh have been saying no bullshit and people who dont want to be here comments.

Not a team of superstars anymore, but hopefully players working hard in their role.

Its what successful teams have.

Have always wondered with the good players we have why we are not successful and this is the moment i am hoping to realise we all need to change our mentality.

Sure i was upset about Curnow being traded. Sure im worried about our KPP Forward stocks, but we need a reset and try something different.


We've tried relying on superstars for too long and it hasn't worked, it's too predictable and too easily nullified, either by other teams or injury.

We've had two KPFs who've won 3 Colemans between them but it didn't translate into wins because we were too reliant on them. Most other clubs these days seem to have a better spread of goal kickers, either smaller forwards or mids.

And this year we clearly had some players (Charlie, JSOS, TDK and I'm gonna add Doc in) and attitudes that weren't conducive to a settled team environment.

I'm actually kinda excited to see how we go about things in 2026.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:39 am 
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We are balanced across the field.

We have genuine half forwards/high half forwards.

We have some swift players "with the ball".

We have secured our first selection for this year.

We have put a very positive piece to the equation towards securing Walker (this is not just any old trade for a 1st round).

We have something up our sleeve for 2027. It's good to be banked up.

If we didn't do what we did we would be looking stale. I feel an invigoration.

I am looking forward to season 2026. I wasn't two weeks ago.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:42 am 
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Good post missnaut. Yep 2 coleman medalists and we still dont kick goals.

Often Charlie and Harry led to the same spots. Charlie definetely didnt tackle and chase. Harry at least does. Charlie stood still when he didnt get the ball.

I hope Harry thrives on his own with support around him, both in the air and on the ground. Thats what hayward and ainsworth offer.

We are only in big trouble if Harry goes down, which is why i want us to get some tall Forwards from somewhere to develop.

We have Ison who is a tall forward too which is good. And Dean who is a tall back.

Just need someone from the VFL or the draft or as a delisted free agent as insurance talls.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2026
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Young Weitering Wilson
Newman Haynes Cowan
Florent Cripps O.Hollands
Hayward Kemp Williams
Ainsworth McKay Evans

Reidy Walsh Hewett

Cera, HOK, Smith, Moir, Cottrell

The Rest..............

Saad, Lord, Ben Campo, Lucas Campo, Acres, McGovern, Fogarty, Motlop, Carroll, Charleson.

Over tea and toast.

Wilson over Saad? Changing of the guard. I liked what Wilson showed in his last few games.

Kemp is listed as 2cms shorter than Charlie. I am not a massive Young fan, but he does fill a role if the matchups are right.
Pitto is not what we need. I think Reidy just might be a great pickup. 204cm, 105+kg. Can take a mark and has some old fashion vigor.

Plenty are interchangeable. I hope both Campo's have big pre-seasons and really put some pressure on but they are still slim and learning.

Just kicking the can down the road. :lol: :lol:

Regards Cazzesman

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