Assistant coaches - OUT: Hamill

Effes · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 9:55 am

Tom Lonergan and Aaron Greaves also departing.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 10:17 am

Effes wrote:

Tom Lonergan and Aaron Greaves also departing.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/18764 ... ng-changes

Rod Spooky Galt · **Joined:** Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:31 pm **Posts:** 1417

Interesting to see Lonergan wasn't our decision, and reading between the lines on the article, the remaining line coaches appear to be safe.

I wonder if there's merit in moving Power into the footy boss role, or expanding the scope of Lonergan's role with certain elements of the football boss role to give that to him instead without it appearing to be a demotion.

Think there's merit in getting a genuine coach into the VFL set up - Justin Plapp, Peta Searle, Paddy Hill, Jackson Kornberg all with varying degrees of merit there, and I suspect it makes the most sense from a soft cap perspective.

Disappointed to some degree that Hansen is sticking around from a perspective that such a large chunk of the senior assistant role will sit outside the cap from next season and I think that's a missed opportunity. Another option would be to give him the VFL role, but I suspect he'd be within his rights to see it as a demotion.

Crusader · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:38 pm

I’ve mentioned elsewhere that the Head of Football role should’ve been restructured into Performance (on field) and Talent (off field), similar to the Tigers & others.

Greaves & Lonergan were in the junior burger versions of those roles, so that might be what’s happening.

Power probably assumes the Talent role, which would oversee the List Management, Academy & Development functions.

Puts us in the market for a Performance guru, a VFL coach and a couple assistants.

If he’s not in line for the Dees job, it’s pretty clear that Ash Hansen isn’t going to be a senior coach. For everyone’s sake, I hope we find him a more suitable role.

Effes · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 12:43 pm

Callum Twomey
@CalTwomey

Geelong premiership player Tom Lonergan is heading back to the Cats.

Lonergan is leaving Carlton, where he was development coach and talent manager, to join the Cats' recruiting department.

He played 209 games for the Cats between 2005-17. @AFLcomau

Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 18158

Greaves' role seemed to be more about candles, crystals and fish slapping IMHO. A nothing position created purely to bring him into the organisation. Glad to see him moved on and the dollars allocated to something more substantial.

GWS · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:40 pm

Not much sense holding onto your Head of Coaching Performance and Innovation when your club is not that great at coaching and not terribly innovative.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:41 pm

GWS wrote:

Not much sense holding onto your Head of Coaching Performance and Innovation when your club is not that great at coaching and not terribly innovative.

CK95 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 26, 2025 5:40 pm

Blue Vain wrote:

Greaves' role seemed to be more about candles, crystals and fish slapping IMHO.

diesel95 · **Joined:** Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:59 pm **Posts:** 1199

sinbagger wrote:

Blue4ever wrote:

Someone mentioned Hickmott, is he the forwards coach at the Hawks?

As good as Gunston is, I cant believe the amount of space and easy ball he gets. H and Charlie would love that much time and being hit on the chest out in front. It's not like the Hawks currently have a monster forward, Gunston is the main forward and still gets space. No doubt he's very smart and gets good support via blocks but he was gone a few years back.

Our forward entries are putrid, Frankie and Williams are very good at kicking the ball to where the player should be running into, that's about it. Not even Walsh is good at hitting a target in the forward line.

I think it comes down to the hawks having a very mobile forward line and they never stop moving and running and making space. A bit different to our Charlie who stands in the goal square with his arm in the air.

Restricting the AFL player pool to KF and Forwards, Charlie is ranked ::
16 for total marks with 107
6 for av marks — elite
11 for total contested marks (CM)
11 for average CM (1.6 per game — above average — Harry is #2 on 2.2, Sam Darcy #1 on 3.1)
21 for total Mi50
20 for Av Mi50,
10 for Total Marks on Lead
6 for average MOL (Harry #7, Gunston #2, Chris Burgess is #1 but doesn't rank for total MOL)

I agree with the point about the Hawks forward line being mobile. Given that (other than the last few weeks) Blues had had some of the slowest and least skilful ball transition into the F50 I think Charlie is doing ok I think, and he's been jumping with one leg all season.

I'm sure there is room for improvement in our entire forward setup and the entire game plan which places too much emphasis on old school "wins finals" contested footy and not enough on putting goal kicking players (forwards and mids) in good positions to kick goals, both in play and set shots. We all know that and even Voss says they tried to move the style in the last pre-season but it took a long time to show up in games… having so many young players playing that style in the VFL who then came into the AFL team might have been the turning point for that?

Marks
Contested marks
Marks Inside 50
Marks on Lead

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