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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:01 pm 
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Last 2 games have been against weak oppo, depleted Effendopes and Bullants.
Next weeks game, will be against tougher oppo in North. We spanked them earlier this year, but they have improved.

Lemmey and Wilson have to keep playing well consistenely and their time will come.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:55 am 
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Terrible season.

Someone raised this point a few weeks ago & I think it's a good one. The Melbourne final will go down in Carlton folklore as an absolutely great moment, & our most exciting win this century really. But if you really break it down, the Dees somehow lost that game. They absolutely bottled it, Gawn hit the post from 10m out, even the Acres goal started from a Viney turnover.

It was epic getting into that prelim but we sort of fell in there & from there really rated ourselves for the next 2 seasons.

Sliding doors stuff, but I wonder if we'd fallen short at week 2, if we may have had a good think about the list & traded out a player or two. Just got onto things a bit earlier than we finally are now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:25 pm 
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I want entertainment and wins. I look forward to that every round. I'm Ok with it. I don't see losses as the end of the world or the end of carlton. I'm proud to be a bagger.



me too. it's why i'm getting ready to head out to the jai opetaia fight.



... first time in following carlton since i was 4, that i've made plans while a carlton and Essendon** game is being played.


Mate how @#$%&! good is Jai Opetaia. I listen to that guy speak and I’m in awe of how driven and mentally strong he is. Absolutely ferocious competitor. I can’t help but compare it to our bunch of so called leaders and it’s so blatantly obvious how far off we are. Would love to see our blokes spend a week in training camp with Jai and find out what real heart and desire is


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:33 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:

I want entertainment and wins. I look forward to that every round. I'm Ok with it. I don't see losses as the end of the world or the end of carlton. I'm proud to be a bagger.



me too. it's why i'm getting ready to head out to the jai opetaia fight.



... first time in following carlton since i was 4, that i've made plans while a carlton and Essendon*** game is being played.


Mate how @#$%&! good is Jai Opetaia. I listen to that guy speak and I’m in awe of how driven and mentally strong he is. Absolutely ferocious competitor. I can’t help but compare it to our bunch of so called leaders and it’s so blatantly obvious how far off we are. Would love to see our blokes spend a week in training camp with Jai and find out what real heart and desire is


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jai is fantastic. he spars a young pro in our gym. when he comes over with his dad he always takes the time with the kids in our gym, my son included. talks to them about having fun, enjoying amateurs before it gets really serious in the pros. talks about mindset too. he is built different jai. a warrior. doesn't accept negative talk or talk of failure. just victory or lessons, but usually both ... he could for sure talk to footy teams and impart his knowledge and mindset and leave them in a better place - more inspired.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 1:19 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:

I want entertainment and wins. I look forward to that every round. I'm Ok with it. I don't see losses as the end of the world or the end of carlton. I'm proud to be a bagger.



me too. it's why i'm getting ready to head out to the jai opetaia fight.



... first time in following carlton since i was 4, that i've made plans while a carlton and Essendon**** game is being played.


Mate how @#$%&! good is Jai Opetaia. I listen to that guy speak and I’m in awe of how driven and mentally strong he is. Absolutely ferocious competitor. I can’t help but compare it to our bunch of so called leaders and it’s so blatantly obvious how far off we are. Would love to see our blokes spend a week in training camp with Jai and find out what real heart and desire is


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jai is fantastic. he spars a young pro in our gym. when he comes over with his dad he always takes the time with the kids in our gym, my son included. talks to them about having fun, enjoying amateurs before it gets really serious in the pros. talks about mindset too. he is built different jai. a warrior. doesn't accept negative talk or talk of failure. just victory or lessons, but usually both ... he could for sure talk to footy teams and impart his knowledge and mindset and leave them in a better place - more inspired.


Thanks for sharing, love hearing that. Very lucky to have a role model like Jai for your kid. He’s a bloody inspiring individual. I love how he talks about “chasing the pain”. Going to the toughest places every day in training so when he gets in the ring they can’t take him anywhere he’s not familiar with. You said it well, a true warrior. Just hope he gets the unification fights he’s chasing. He deserves the chance to be undisputed. I have a feeling Zurdo is terrified of him though and will take an easy pay day against Jake Paul, provided they both win this weekend.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 4:58 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Terrible season.

Someone raised this point a few weeks ago & I think it's a good one. The Melbourne final will go down in Carlton folklore as an absolutely great moment, & our most exciting win this century really. But if you really break it down, the Dees somehow lost that game. They absolutely bottled it, Gawn hit the post from 10m out, even the Acres goal started from a Viney turnover.

It was epic getting into that prelim but we sort of fell in there & from there really rated ourselves for the next 2 seasons.

Sliding doors stuff, but I wonder if we'd fallen short at week 2, if we may have had a good think about the list & traded out a player or two. Just got onto things a bit earlier than we finally are now.


We were extremely lucky to win that game - the Dees kicked 9.17 and missed 4 gettable goals in the last 5 mins to kill the game.

Even the week before vs the Swans we barely fell over the line.

The Swans kicked 9.14.

Twice they reeled us in from 4-5 goals down - this epitomises the Voss era - wild momentum swings in game.

Then the damn prelim....that first quarter was the best footy I've seen from Carlton since 2000 - and we blew it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 5:43 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Terrible season.

Someone raised this point a few weeks ago & I think it's a good one. The Melbourne final will go down in Carlton folklore as an absolutely great moment, & our most exciting win this century really. But if you really break it down, the Dees somehow lost that game. They absolutely bottled it, Gawn hit the post from 10m out, even the Acres goal started from a Viney turnover.

It was epic getting into that prelim but we sort of fell in there & from there really rated ourselves for the next 2 seasons.

Sliding doors stuff, but I wonder if we'd fallen short at week 2, if we may have had a good think about the list & traded out a player or two. Just got onto things a bit earlier than we finally are now.


We were extremely lucky to win that game - the Dees kicked 9.17 and missed 4 gettable goals in the last 5 mins to kill the game.

Even the week before vs the Swans we barely fell over the line.

The Swans kicked 9.14.

Twice they reeled us in from 4-5 goals down - this epitomises the Voss era - wild momentum swings in game.

Then the damn prelim....that first quarter was the best footy I've seen from Carlton since 2000 - and we blew it.



the whole entire time under voss, this has been the case. bipolar halves and quarters of footy. from brilliant to basement in the space of 10-15 game time minutes. it's extraordinary.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2025 11:01 pm 
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Don't forget the Jekyll & Hyde third and fourth quarters of the last H & A game in '22 that we lost by the solitary point that we couldn't muster to make the finals.

I was there. We were all beside ourselves with the way we smashed the Filth in that third and just wanted it to go on and on.

Then they played smart and we shat the bed and displayed a real lack of footy smarts. Not sure I've ever been dropped so low from so high while watching a match.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 9:13 am 
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Don't forget the Jekyll & Hyde third and fourth quarters of the last H & A game in '22 that we lost by the solitary point that we couldn't muster to make the finals.

I was there. We were all beside ourselves with the way we smashed the Filth in that third and just wanted it to go on and on.

Then they played smart and we shat the bed and displayed a real lack of footy smarts. Not sure I've ever been dropped so low from so high while watching a match.


We are mentally weak, too many players panic and don't have the footy smarts. It's the footy smarts of Sidebottom and Pendlebury that allows them to continue to play good football.

We have too many players that are front runners, when we are playing well they are full of confidence and it seems it goes to their heads. Then the heat comes on and they shi!t themselves. We need midfielders that are smart not just good footballers, see ball - get ball.

We have no gears, brains, leadership and or idea how to play momentum football. There is a time to attack, pause or slow the game down. How many times have we seen with 30 sec on the clock and we kick the ball into a dangerous position on the ground or miss a kick? From having control to giving the ball away with 30 sec on the clock.

Just dumb footballers.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:21 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Terrible season.

Someone raised this point a few weeks ago & I think it's a good one. The Melbourne final will go down in Carlton folklore as an absolutely great moment, & our most exciting win this century really. But if you really break it down, the Dees somehow lost that game. They absolutely bottled it, Gawn hit the post from 10m out, even the Acres goal started from a Viney turnover.

It was epic getting into that prelim but we sort of fell in there & from there really rated ourselves for the next 2 seasons.

Sliding doors stuff, but I wonder if we'd fallen short at week 2, if we may have had a good think about the list & traded out a player or two. Just got onto things a bit earlier than we finally are now.


We were extremely lucky to win that game - the Dees kicked 9.17 and missed 4 gettable goals in the last 5 mins to kill the game.

Even the week before vs the Swans we barely fell over the line.

The Swans kicked 9.14.

Twice they reeled us in from 4-5 goals down - this epitomises the Voss era - wild momentum swings in game.

Then the damn prelim....that first quarter was the best footy I've seen from Carlton since 2000 - and we blew it.


There's a bit of luck and bad luck in close games. Turnovers are forced, as was Viney's and we were good enough to take the ball from one end of the ground to to goal. That is something practise, but also have to acknowledge the risks and IQ involved.

WE were good in the strak of 2022, not denying that.

Then the first quarter of the Prelim was amazing. We obviosuly ran out of gas, or the leaders don't really know how to read the game is it evolves and as we are seeing in 2025, they don't react and adapt.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:22 pm 
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Blue4ever wrote:

We are mentally weak, too many players panic and don't have the footy smarts. It's the footy smarts of Sidebottom and Pendlebury that allows them to continue to play good football.

We have too many players that are front runners, when we are playing well they are full of confidence and it seems it goes to their heads. Then the heat comes on and they shi!t themselves. We need midfielders that are smart not just good footballers, see ball - get ball.

We have no gears, brains, leadership and or idea how to play momentum football. There is a time to attack, pause or slow the game down. How many times have we seen with 30 sec on the clock and we kick the ball into a dangerous position on the ground or miss a kick? From having control to giving the ball away with 30 sec on the clock.

Just dumb footballers.


I subscribe to this POV.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:26 pm 
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Season is over, and with that the obvious gapes highlighted.

I truly believe if Liam Jones hadn't left, and we upgraded on those injury prone players earlier we would have won the GF in 2023.

WE had 2 rucks functioning well, with a 3 headed monster in the forward line, Walsh and Crippa in top form. Cincotta and Cottrell giving us plenty of run when needed.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2025 12:40 pm 
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I think we lost sight of our No 1 goal, and that is to win Premierships. One will do this hungry supporter base.

WE should have been ruthless with list cuts. Cut the weak and keep topping up, and pushing the limits of the cap by attracting better players and back ending contracts to make that happen.

Last year's draft typified our loss of sight of our primary objective. WE had 2 first round picks, Houston wanting to join us, and a possible one or two good playeres wanting to join us, giving us a deep list and pressure on spots.

WE went for sustained success and topped up with ONE class player an 18yo Jagga Smith.

Sustained success doesn't equate to Premierships. I think the board was happy for GM of football to instruct Austin to build this list before the Tassie concessions hit, happy for Blues making Finals each year to keep Memberships high and with that sponsorship dollars rolling in.

Collingwood had one thing in mind is to win a flag with this group and give them every chance to do so. Look at them now. Look at their trades over the last 3 years: Tom Mitchell, Bobby Hill, Billy Frampton, Dan McStay FA, Lachie Schultz, Dan Houston, Harry Prerryman FA and Tim Membrey.

at worst they traded in 3 depth players amongst all those matyre picks, but it was obvious they were not rebuilding, they were topping up to win a flag.

Now, there's no guarantees they will win a flag, but they aren't favourites for nothing and their fans are loving this ride.

I'm sure a few great Trades will change our fortune in a couple years, but we have to drop a pile of oldies and kids to make room.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:45 pm 
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So Wright doesn’t start till August 15 th
Why not tomorrow
Surely he has seen enough
Watch the usual wok bullshit from the club today
Priestley given us the Conservative Party line
Same message that we have heard for 25 years
Just a different name
Cripps telling us to stick fat
Yet again
Basically treating supporters like fools
Nothing will change
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Watch the usual wok bullshit from the club today


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