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Carlton Players Out of Contract in 2025 Carlton Player Contracts

Name Years Service Status
Alex Cincotta 3 Non-Free Agent
Billy Wilson 2 Non-Free Agent
Brodie Kemp 6 Non-Free Agent
Flynn Young 1 Unknown
Francis Evans 1 Unrestricted Free Agent
Harry Charleson 1 Non-Free Agent
Harry Lemmey 3 Non-Free Agent
Jack Silvagni 10 Unrestricted Free Agent
Jesse Motlop 4 Non-Free Agent
Matt Carroll 2 Unrestricted Free Agent
Mitch McGovern 7 Non-Free Agent
Nic Newman 7 Non-Free Agent
Nick Haynes 1 Unrestricted Free Agent
Orazio Fantasia 2 Unrestricted Free Agent
Rob Monahan 2 Non-Free Agent
Sam Docherty 12 Unrestricted Free Agent
Tom De Koning 8 Restricted Free Agent
Will White 1 Non-Free Agent

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Our drafting (and/or development) has been woeful since 2015.

From 2016 to 2023 (8 years) we drafted exactly 4 good players

Walsh (no brainer pick 1)
TDK
Cottrell
O Hollands

Cowan and Lord as maybes

Our trading has been way better than our drafting!

Compare that to the Cats, who would have 16 players on that list, with similar or worse draft capital.
Stewart
Ratugolea
Henry
Z Guthrie
Kelly
Miers
Clark
Atkins
SDK
Close
Holmes
Neale
Dempsey
Humphries
O'Sullivan
Mannagh

There is the reason we are shite

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Yep, we are going to be feeling the big list hole from SPS, Philp, Dow, Obrien etc for a long time.

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Plus Fisher, Setterfield, Stocker, Kemp as well as recruiting the injury prone Marchbank and overpaying for McGovern and Williams.
Depressing reading.

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Don't look at the numbers, look at the outcomes.
It has nothing to do with overrating the list. It's about complementing in an area where we are significantly deficient. Jagga was the perfect addition structurally.
Forget our second rounder because that would have been swallowed up by Harry Dean anyway so it's irrelevant. We have a second rounder to offer.
This years draft is poor in quality and 3 of the top 5 picks will be academy, and others will come between 5-10.
So we gave up pick 12 last year and our first this year in a poor draft, (which will possibly drift into the teens anyway) to get Jagga Smith. The player we rated the best in an elite draft.
We also got O'Farrell and the 2 Campo's.
So 2 picks in the teens for Jagga, I'm taking it every time. Couple that with Harry Dean this year and it perfectly addresses deficiencies.

IMHO, when we look back on the 2024/2025 draft strategy, it will be a great outcome.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Plus giving up top 10 picks for Cerra and Saad. Don’t forget those doozies


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That's the way I see it as well

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“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman

TDK has to go... The Club must push him out even if he wants to Stay... He is not worth the money St.Kilda are offering, nor is he even worth what Carlton are offering.

We get a prized 1st rounder for him, and if we can get a decent player along with Jagga to come back next year plus the Campo Boys & an improved Lord, then we can start to rebuild a midfield that will bare fruits in 3-4 years time from now!

The Club also must remove some of its Senior players. They must force them out. Enough of the Soft approach and handing out Millions of dollars to players who can't even do the basics. This is my recommendations:

** Untouchables- must keep **

J-Sos
S.Walsh
J.Weitering
P.Cripps
G.Hewett

** Must Delist end of year **

O.Fantasia
E.Hollands ( Take your mental issues elsewhere- we have had enough)
J.Binns ( he is not going to come good- VFL player at best- Lazy as hell )
M.Pittonet ( Time to go with TDK- he does nothing anymore )
L. Young ( Average footballer- We have to go past him to move forward )
W.White ( Failed Experiment- Good player but not AFL Standards )
A.Moir ( Another Lazy player who refuses to do the basics- talanted but wants to play on his own terms- Get rid of him )
F.Evans ( Seriousely, what the hell were we thinking? )

** Must Seek to Trade out and get some value for them **

J.Motlop ( if no interest- has to delist- time is over )
Z.Williams ( Injury prone- will never come good- is he worth keeping for giving you 10 Games a year? )
M.Govern ( Same as Williams- he has to go- enough is enough )
B.Acres ( Gone backwards- Can't kick and has become Lazy )
c.Durdin ( Average player- don't think anyone else will want him )

** Future Kids of the Club- needs to give them 2-3 years to see if they come good **

L.Cowan
O.Hollands
Campo Boys
C.Lord
J.Smith
H.O'Farrell
H.Lemmy
M.Carroll
B.Wilson
J.Boyd
H.O'Keeffe
F.Young

** Untried Kids- no idea whom they are and if they are any good **

M.Duffy
R.Monahan
H.Charleson

** Senior players to Keep but Must lift and improve- One last chance **

A.Cerra
A.Saad
M.Cottrell
B.Kemp
L.Foggarty

** Trade out one of the Two **

C.Currnow
H.Mackay

Bold move but worth exploring if we can get real Value in return, Otherwise has to keep them both and see if they can stay fit

** Time to Retire **

S.Docherty

** New Additions to the team that should make us better **

J.Smith
N.Newman

You wont get anyone near the capability of TDK with the compensation in this years draft. Unless you trade another top liner and use the 2 first rounders to get an established star, it's a waste of time IMHO. Last year was the draft to go hard and we did it.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

So our List Management under Austin is going ok?
Must be the coaching department then?
Or the footy department
Or the culture
Or the board
Or the colour of the walls
Perfectly addresses our deficiencies
The trade for Kennedy resulted in us getting O’Farrell
Let’s hope the club doesn’t ruin him by playing him regularly too early
Key position players need time
Young kids need at least 2 years to settle in
From what I have seen of the Campos they have a crack but arnt quick and average kicks
That adds to our deficiencies
And don’t forget Sam Davidson was available
Another VFL player” not good enough “

Jagga Smith hopefully is as great as you and others say

Why would we trade Charlie Or Harry in this year’s trade with a weak draft there talking plus with all the academy picks

Hindsight recruiting - the Dogs have done very well.

In the 2023 draft at pick 45 the Dogs selected Joel Freijah.

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Why would you trade them full stop ? key forwards are gold and are rare as rocking horse shit . Build from the bottom up , not from the top down .

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