Agreed.

If you are going to delist Billy Wilson, Ashton Moir etc at the end of the year, would have preferred to have seen what they can do in the AFL (if their form warranted it). Instead they are just churned through the VFL.

Campo 25 possessions vs North
Wilson 24 and 8 marks.

At least get one of these two in.

at some point we need to blood some kids in the afl and see if they are up to it.

plenty of kids over the journey have been crap in vfl, but lifted and seemingly come from nowhere to be afl excellent.

L Campo 2 - hasn't really bashed the door down yet, but he's going ok
W White 9 - has had more than a few chances
H O'Farrell 1 - replaces which one of JSOS, Haynes, Wearing or Carroll?
M Carrol 9 - has had many chances
C Lord 13 - has has many chances
J Binns 5 - has had many chances
H O'Keefe 2 - would still be in the AFL team if he wasn't injured
A Moir 1 - Moir nowhere near demanding a promotion, yet has already had a game

Who are all the kids who haven't been given a chance?

B Campo hasn't really bashed the door down yet, but he's going ok
H Lemmey hasn't really bashed the door down yet, but he's going ok
B Wilson yes probably time
F Young yes but doesn't count as not being given a chance as he's only been at the club for a few weeks.

Would you really promote Duffy and Monahan?

So there's one guy who we could "blood".

Don't know why we're potting Cerra. Been one of our highest rated players, been our BOG or close to it on a handful occasions, getting a good run of games together after an injury nightmare last time around. He's not the problem (unless he's one of tumours).

It's hard to argue with Bruce here

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/we- ... 5m9ne.html

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it certainly is.

I think we have to realise that in order to get something we need to give up something.

This trade period is going to be interesting.

The review of our football department is going to be even more interesting.

I don't like (ex-)senior club figures telling the kids they're all shit. Have a pop at the big boys, tough guy.

As much as I think Mathieson has been very good and is still financially assisting us, which we are grateful, he is wrong.
Firstly, from all reports, this year's draft is very compromised. Trading out key players will be at a huge loss and teams will be circling our carcass for cheap buys.
Secondly, he is ignoring our developing youngsters like Campo's, Lem, Moir, HoF, HoK, etc. but also the FS draftees to come.
We have a deep list with current talent and depth but just need to keep developing and topping up. I can't say it enough though but here I am again.

If we had a deep list with talent, wouldn't our VFL team be in the top 8 at least?

The group of small/mid forwards is close to (if not) the worst in the league.

Who is the classy midfielder that the opposition would be worried about when kicking it inside 50?

Many of the inside mids are poor kicks.

Many of the outside mids are poor kicks.

The mid-forward connection is atrocious.....some of it may be coaching (check out how often Carlton players are stagnant up the field when someone is trying to bring the ball out of defence)....but who is our Rachele/Rayner/Miers?.....maybe a Cottrell has some of those qualities but can he play a full season?

Interestingly Carlton ranked #2 for DEF 50 to INSIDE 50 but also ranked 12th for Chain To Score.

A lot of is so odd given some better conversion in the first quarter against North could have almost taken the game away from the Roos.

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that would depend on game plan and development of said talent

neither of which we do very well

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Kicking goals wins games and kicking more behinds than goals (10.13) will not win you many games.

I agree with player development, I've been saying this for a while now.
A winning culture helps with this though, something we have never been able to sustain.
Chopping and changing will make this even more of a pipe dream.

Sure - but as per normal you are dismissing a key - injuries.

Yep - the big issue.

Nope, I have been saying injuries has been a key factor in our loses both in the seniors and the 2s for over a year now.
And is why I am not in the sack Voss camp.
We lack depth to cover our injuries and talent to make them less required.

We moved on the injured players (real depth) last year to get some young talent through the door.
You cannot cover too many injuries (and other issues) with 1st year players. The depth has been there in the seniors, but not the VFL level.
Talent is definitely there but the game we want the young developing kids like Carroll, White, Campo's, HoK's, HoF's etc. to play at AFL level, is unachievable with their current bodies.
All other teams have transitioned to a completely different game plan, we didn't, and it's even worse with our list changes and age demographic this year.
Voss isn't and hasn't been willing to change and accommodate this. That has played a major part to our demise.
He needed to understand the ramifications of such list changes last year and update the game plan to suit the list or at the very least had a plan B in place.