I think the fish is rotting from the leadership group head, not the club head in this case

young had been playing his best footy when he was dropped. doing a whole lotta 1%'ers and team first stuff. when he was in the negating forward role, he was also our best crumbing forward.

I think the fish is rotting from the leadership group head, not the club head in this case

It'd be unfair to name names without any evidence, but doesn't it seem like each new coach brings us a brief run of hope, and then after a while the players start to look disinterested and disconnected from one another? What are the common denominators, I wonder?

Our captain coming out and telling us to stick fat?!!!

Are you @#$%&! for real you @#$%&! gaslighting cauliflower!

David King shredding Carlton to pieces and rightly So.... The Players have lost it all. They are not playing for each other.. only for their pay check!


https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/canno ... 410b66143b

Can someone tell Voss to tell the players that if they kick the ball backwards it puts pressure on us? If they kick the ball forward it puts pressure on them.

That's my read of the situation too.

Absolutely zero proof, just a gut feeling.

It makes me think about Murphy's last game and whether the writing was on the wall about this generation of blokes then?

I'm probably way overthinking this.

Mine too.

And it makes you wonder if it will ever change while we still have this playing group, because we've seen the same behaviour repeated with multiple coaches across multiple years. I'm now of the opinion that it most likely won't and we're in for another tedious few years before the playing group turns over enough for it to stop being a problem.

Is the board really a problem or is it the football department?

Heard it all before
And before
And before that

David King shredding Carlton to pieces and rightly So.... The Players have lost it all. They are not playing for each other.. only for their pay check!


https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/canno ... 410b66143b

hard to argue cfc are more about making money, than winning football games. we have biz people on the board, and no football people.

that is fairly compelling evidence, and at least makes it plausible that we need some football people on board.

Ok, maybe I don't understand how things work but I thought it was the boards job to make money and stay out of football matters, whilst the football department manages football matters and stays out of making money?

That's my read of the situation too.

Absolutely zero proof, just a gut feeling.

It makes me think about Murphy's last game and whether the writing was on the wall about this generation of blokes then?

I'm probably way overthinking this.

i've thought this for a long time. there are some players there that have had multiple coaches now, and have shown they can get rid of them by not playing for them. hopefully one of these retires this year

Lyon expected Curnow to dominate that one-on-one matchup and he’s concerned that the star forward has lost his appetite to compete with everything he’s got on game day.

“When you prepare for Carlton it used to be, 'I'm panicking about Curnow, and I'm panicking about McKay'. Well, that seems to have dissipated, because Harry's injured and Charlie's lost his appetite for being a great player,” Lyon said on SEN Breakfast.

“You've got Patrick Cripps beavering away in the middle of the ground and the rest of them are good soldiers. They don't really put fear into you, do they?

“I don't know (what's wrong with Curnow), it just looks to me as if he's content to be about the second, third or fourth banana and doesn't really want to stand up and say, 'Here I am, I'll be the man and get you over the line'.

“I was just really disappointed with the way he's played not only in this game but in games previously.