100% agree.

Vossy made it quite clear in his presser that he thought the team got bullied. He also made a direct point in regard to his 3qtr time spray saying it was directed at everyone not just "Binns". I looked at the footage and you could see his eyes darting so he wasn't focused on "one" person. You can bet you bottom dollar, he was filthy then and will be mega filthy in the review. He had hints of smoke coming out of his ears at his presser (and so he should have).

I havent read all of the posts in this thread, but the biggest concern I have is that basically no one, not one player especially our Captain Cripps looked or played like they really cared or worse - that they were interested.... Its heartbreaking to see this. Its like none of the have the desire, spirit or respect to our Club to at least give a shit and play with some heart and soul, some vigor and toughness (especially at contests - Voss was right - we let them bully us and the players just wilted).

This is a common theme across a number of losses - not just yesterday.

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Yes , the lack of spirit is probably the hardest thing to cop at the moment . If there is one player you should stand up for its the selfless George . But nah , left him like a piece of dung . FFS someone fly the flag . Someone .

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Yeah I see your reasoning. Xerri’s a great ruckman etc.
But it is a metaphor for the club game style actually that they chose Pittonet. Let’s go defensive and “break even”. The game style is also all about defense first, little aggression. Little offense.

I heard Jonathan Brown rave about Pittonet’s big body yada yada.. but that’s a bit dull when you consider Young actually played well against North earlier in the season.

When did Pittonet last do more than “break even” against North?

An aggressive option would have been Young. 17 possessions, 3 marks, 1 goal, 8 hit outs last time vs north. & you have a third option like Cripps to pinch hit in ruck.

Don’t get me wrong.. I think Young is an average footballer at AFL level, but he at least has runs on board vs North.

The other problem is small forwards. Time to reassess who makes the team out of that lot.

young had been playing his best footy when he was dropped. doing a whole lotta 1%'ers and team first stuff. when he was in the negating forward role, he was also our best crumbing forward.

Come on who can say they are really surprised by the outcome.
With pittonet, acres, motlop, doc, fantasia. hollands and so much more dishing up the same crap who was expecting a different result.
Our season was done in the first round ffs.

I wasn't surprised by the result.
I have had a bad feeling about the season right from round 1.
When we think about it we have been pretty crap for 12 months now. This time last year we smashed Geelong and were sitting 2nd on the ladder. We have won about 8 games since then.

We've tried new blood as well, Teague, Bolton and new high performance coaches with the runs on the board.

It's the club we've killed off many and I suspect we will ruin Wright's impressive resume as well.

There is something rotten.

Pittonet was chosen so TDK could assist in the forward line. That's it.
Short memories on TDK. He dominated Xerri last time we played North. He was awarded coaches votes and was also voted 3rd best in Talking Carlton's MVP.

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So everything is good in your eyes?

Did I post anything remotely close to that? Maybe get yours checked.
Just addressing some of the misinformation being posted.

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I’m asking
How are we going?

Thanks for reminding me the name of Simpkon, how the @#$%&! do our players let a guy like Simpkon become an enforcer and bully our players? @#$%&! Simpkon!!?

You’re right….and you’re wrong. TDK dominated Xerri last time around because Xerri was injured, this time around Xerri was back to full fitness. TDK is a flat track bully.

You’re also right Pittonet was meant to free up TDK to play mainly as a forward, which TDK also failed miserably at.

It's amazing how we have all these experts on the health, fitness and pay packets of players. Even opposition players. What a load of shit.
He dominated Xerri last time around. No pathetic, unsubstantiated excuses.
Also, TDK has been awarded coaches votes in 5 games. 3 of them were losses. Which would make him the opposite of a flat track bully. But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good player bagging.

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Surprisingly this week we only had 3 players kick at 50% eff. or less.
Motlop
Lord
Pitto.

And Cincotta didn't even have a kick.

It looked a lot worse than that, it's when the pressure is on that we crumble with our skills, like kicking goals.

Disappointing. Cincotta showed last week he's a beautiful kick going inside 50. 3 goal assists from memory.

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Very.
He has a nice leg on him.
He did have 100% Disposal eff. from 7 handballs though.

Yeah , and to top it off he got flung into the fence by Xerri and not one single player came in and fly the flag on his behalf . Who would blame him if he left . And that was amongst a number similar instances yesterday that went unchallenged . Most insipid Carlton performance I have witnessed for many a long year . Hey BV , can you put your finger on it ? could not believe how they didn't stick up for each other . Did they blue amongst themselves before the game ? it was like there were eighteen individuals out there rather than a team . And Voss seemed unusually ill at ease prior to the match .

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The more I reflect on this performance, the more disgusted I get.

What gives them the right? They’ve achieved nothing.

Just spitting in the faces of all us idiots who continue to support.

The lack of urgency, spirit, fight and pressure was damning. Got absolutely monstered by North. North!

I still can’t get over how we move the ball and the lack of any movement whatsoever ahead of the ball. Mind blowingly bad.

It is a disgrace that we are back here again.

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