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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:59 pm 
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Those who think Wright will save the club are deluded.

There is little evidence to suggest that any high-profile, non-player signing at Carlton in recent decades has been able to single-handedly "save" the club or deliver a transformative turnaround.

Here’s a list of notable non-player signings (coaches, executives, and key staff) at Carlton since 2010:

Presidents:

Stephen Kernahan (until 2014)
Mark LoGiudice (2014–2021)
Luke Sayers (2021–2025)
Robert Priestley (2025–)

Chief Executive Officers:

Greg Swann (until 2014)
Steven Trigg (2014–2017)
Cain Liddle (2017–2021)
Brian Cook (2021–2025)
Graham Wright (appointed Deputy CEO in 2025, set to become CEO)

Senior Coaches:

Brett Ratten (until 2012)
Mick Malthouse (2013–2015)
Brendon Bolton (2016–2019)
David Teague (2019–2021)
Michael Voss (2022–present)

Key Football Department Appointments:

Tom Lonergan (Development and Talent Manager, 2023–)
Brad Ebert (Development Coach, 2023–)
Torin Baker (Academy and Development Coach, 2021–)
Aaron Greaves (Coaching and Performance Manager, 2022–)
Ashley Hansen (Senior Assistant Coach)
Aaron Hamill (Backline Coach)
Tim Clarke (Midfield Coach)

Fitness:

Steven Tiricola – Strength and Conditioning Coach.
Andrew Russell – Head of High Performance (joined from Hawthorn in 2018; highly regarded in the AFL industry).
Luke Power – Development and high-performance roles (also served as VFL coach)

Looking for a savior just doesn't work at Carlton.


Wow. Great reminder.

Its a shit show.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:03 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
With the list they put together because they thought that this style of footy would win, it wouldn't matter who coaches the club. A number of us said it pre-season. Wrong list for the modern game. The list needs a major overhaul and I'm somewhat confident over 2 years the new CEO will demand it. If not, I'm quite seriously in favour of A.I leading the list management. I reckon it'd do a better job.


I reckon you would do a better job in more areas than you mention.

The club should have invited you on board when they had the chance.

Hey , I wouldn't complain about that . I could think of nothing better than having a grassroots member being on the Board . They need to hear from the common man . The bloke on the street type supporter .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:04 pm 
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What the above shows is the problem stems from above
You can argue a case against that if it was 5 years
Maybe 10
But not 25
The appointment of Priestley shows the club haven’t learnt


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:38 pm 
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you know a while ago some posters were reflecting how not as many posters post anymore, from then I've tried to make a commitment to posting a bit more, but the above post shows why the trend to less posts probably occurs.

We all know the views and so now because of opportunity we will read them (again) on every thread and probably seventeen hundred times in each thread- after all, misery loves company...the volume negates the desire of others to post... its like being at kinder and the boy in the corner keeps shouting over and over for a new bucket for the sand pit...we know he wants a new bucket and we'd just wish he'd shut up and let the rest of us play while he waits for his new bucket - we know new buckets depend on things like budget and opportunity and so forth...not on a new bucket just magically appearing out of thin air...patience and all that

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:55 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Nitrille wrote:
Those who think Wright will save the club are deluded.

There is little evidence to suggest that any high-profile, non-player signing at Carlton in recent decades has been able to single-handedly "save" the club or deliver a transformative turnaround.

Here’s a list of notable non-player signings (coaches, executives, and key staff) at Carlton since 2010:

Presidents:

Stephen Kernahan (until 2014)
Mark LoGiudice (2014–2021)
Luke Sayers (2021–2025)
Robert Priestley (2025–)

Chief Executive Officers:

Greg Swann (until 2014)
Steven Trigg (2014–2017)
Cain Liddle (2017–2021)
Brian Cook (2021–2025)
Graham Wright (appointed Deputy CEO in 2025, set to become CEO)

Senior Coaches:

Brett Ratten (until 2012)
Mick Malthouse (2013–2015)
Brendon Bolton (2016–2019)
David Teague (2019–2021)
Michael Voss (2022–present)

Key Football Department Appointments:

Tom Lonergan (Development and Talent Manager, 2023–)
Brad Ebert (Development Coach, 2023–)
Torin Baker (Academy and Development Coach, 2021–)
Aaron Greaves (Coaching and Performance Manager, 2022–)
Ashley Hansen (Senior Assistant Coach)
Aaron Hamill (Backline Coach)
Tim Clarke (Midfield Coach)

Fitness:

Steven Tiricola – Strength and Conditioning Coach.
Andrew Russell – Head of High Performance (joined from Hawthorn in 2018; highly regarded in the AFL industry).
Luke Power – Development and high-performance roles (also served as VFL coach)

Looking for a savior just doesn't work at Carlton.


Wow. Great reminder.

Its a shit show.


Yeah , and he hasn't even mention the number of Recruiters we have been through .

The Last Gasp Saloon . That's us .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:00 pm 
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kezza wrote:
According to a poster on BF, Wright is pushing for Longmire.



he kinda folds under gf pressure. pass.

speaking of; they said today inside the industry, he's not ready for the afl grind after the last gf blowout. maybe he never climbs that tree again?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:04 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
With the list they put together because they thought that this style of footy would win, it wouldn't matter who coaches the club. A number of us said it pre-season. Wrong list for the modern game. The list needs a major overhaul and I'm somewhat confident over 2 years the new CEO will demand it. If not, I'm quite seriously in favour of A.I leading the list management. I reckon it'd do a better job.


I reckon you would do a better job in more areas than you mention.

The club should have invited you on board when they had the chance.

Hey , I wouldn't complain about that . I could think of nothing better than having a grassroots member being on the Board . They need to hear from the common man . The bloke on the street type supporter .


Doc isn't common. But yeah, I get the gist. Doc's a strategic thinker, and he's articulate, and he loves and cares about Carlton.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:07 pm 
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dannyboy wrote:
you know a while ago some posters were reflecting how not as many posters post anymore, from then I've tried to make a commitment to posting a bit more, but the above post shows why the trend to less posts probably occurs.

We all know the views and so now because of opportunity we will read them (again) on every thread and probably seventeen hundred times in each thread- after all, misery loves company...the volume negates the desire of others to post... its like being at kinder and the boy in the corner keeps shouting over and over for a new bucket for the sand pit...we know he wants a new bucket and we'd just wish he'd shut up and let the rest of us play while he waits for his new bucket - we know new buckets depend on things like budget and opportunity and so forth...not on a new bucket just magically appearing out of thin air...patience and all that


I getcha.

I've enjoyed reading your well mannered, respectful views. Comes from a good place. Thanks db

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:37 pm 
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in a day where no one from the mid group played hard, did their role, or went above or beyond. on a day where cripps said he would be levelling up.


did anyone else find it weak as piss voss went after binns in the 3 qtr huddle, while the senior players who were all equally as bad, get away unscathed? how does doc avoid scrutiny from voss?


it'll be a good day when voss is gone from our club.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:48 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
kezza wrote:
According to a poster on BF, Wright is pushing for Longmire.



he kinda folds under gf pressure. pass.

speaking of; they said today inside the industry, he's not ready for the afl grind after the last gf blowout. maybe he never climbs that tree again?


Ha, I just this minute made a post about us going after yesterday's man, now I read this.

Personally I'd bite your hand off if you offered me some "gf pressure", but we wouldn't get that far. An old coach, coming off a long stint at one club that has left him emotionally shattered... @#$%&! me, he's the perfect Carlton appointment!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:11 pm 
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How lovely
I would be more positive if I could see a path to success
But how can you be
Say it how it is
I can keep posting stuff I believe whether it’s inference fact whatever
I don’t care if it’s repetitive

The main reason there are less posters is because of Facebook Twitter tick tock
and the endless people having their weekly 5 minutes of fame on You Tube
The comments there are negative and repetitive
So tell me how is that different

What’s more relevant
Beating Essendon*’s reserves a few weeks ago
Where we are at after 10 years of rebuilding
I think we all know the answer

I could not give a shit but still come on here because I still give a shit


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:22 pm 
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So what is the club going to about all this?
Wright should be in the chair tomorrow and Cook can go
Don’t wait till July sometime


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:33 pm 
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We have greater issues than Voss as our coach. List management is more of an issue.

For some reason our club cannot find players who

- move the ball quickly,
- can cover the ground
- small forwards that have a strong first point of contact with the ball, kick both feet and have goal sense.

In 2016 Richmond finished 13th with 8 wins ... the rest is history.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 3:37 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
in a day where no one from the mid group played hard, did their role, or went above or beyond. on a day where cripps said he would be levelling up.


did anyone else find it weak as piss voss went after binns in the 3 qtr huddle, while the senior players who were all equally as bad, get away unscathed? how does doc avoid scrutiny from voss?


it'll be a good day when voss is gone from our club.

I'd like to think he pointed out a few of the senior mids and all we saw on the tv coverage was the Binns part... but!!!

I'd also hope that during the week he highlights the lack of response to Hewitt's bump, and the piss poor response to Xerri pushing TDK into the fence.

...or will the leadership group not like that too much.

Seriously, what do we stand for? As the dude on the podcast said, we are “Financially thriving, spiritually bankrupt”.

Do the players still trust him and are just a little down on hope? Has he lost the players?

He should survive until the end of the year... who knows how we finish off the season.

...but he's also a 15 goal belting, or two, away from centrelink.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:01 pm 
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it's almost like voss is too scared/ worried to upset the "leaders" here. maybe the players get too much say in things? i have no idea, i'm just speculating

but voss's avoidance to go after the real culprits, cripps, curnow, docherty, weiters etc seems to speak volumes about where we are right now.

the fact he lets cripps do whatever he wants is baffling to me. again the old brownlow and colemans actually meaning something, is so overblown at cfc. i don't care for it when we're 30 years and counting from a premiership.

win a fk'ing flag fellas, and then lets talk about how good you are and how untouchable you should be etc.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:04 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
We have greater issues than Voss as our coach. List management is more of an issue.

For some reason our club cannot find players who

- move the ball quickly,
- can cover the ground
- small forwards that have a strong first point of contact with the ball, kick both feet and have goal sense.

In 2016 Richmond finished 13th with 8 wins ... the rest is history.

Yeah Da , putting it all on Voss is a copout . List , recruiting , and definitely our medical team , and top of the list our board who have overseen the debacle .

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:47 pm 
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Back Voss in.

Send Hamill packing, immediately. Right, wrong, don’t care. It happened publicly & it’s been Gossip Girl ever since.

Encourage Priestly to take up a coterie role that he can do from Sydney, or thanks for your service. No surer guarantee than there’s a rival ticket in the making.

Restructure the football department, similar to Richmond (and others), where the job is split into:
Talent (list management, player development, the academy, welfare & integrity) and
Performance (senior & VFL team performance, fitness, coaching groups).

Spend whatever it takes. Pay the tax.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:55 pm 
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If we have some good wins eg against Collingwood and or Brisbane and avoid any more embarrassing losses like the Richmond and Adelaide games he's a reasonable chance to carry on to next year.
He won't get an extension this year regardless.
This didn't age well.....
I don't think the list is too bad.. (without knowing the players beyond what they can do on the field)

I have to agree with Voss about our best and worst.

The coach is the one that has to work that out though... that's my worry.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 5:55 pm 
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Just watching Western Bulldogs. Funny how kicking to the top of the square opens up opportunities for other players. Beats the hell out of our kick to the right pocket for Charlie and kick to the left pocket for Harry.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 6:15 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
in a day where no one from the mid group played hard, did their role, or went above or beyond. on a day where cripps said he would be levelling up.


did anyone else find it weak as piss voss went after binns in the 3 qtr huddle, while the senior players who were all equally as bad, get away unscathed? how does doc avoid scrutiny from voss?


it'll be a good day when voss is gone from our club.


Braithy I think that is pretty unfair..............because

Who knows, if some of it was directed at Binns. Who knows what conversations were had with Binns at 1/4 time and 1/2 time as a lead up. Maybe has been told the same thing many times in the VFL.
The clip of Voss going off last Seconds. In the entire context, who knows whom he directed words toward?
The main gist i saw was 'Just play your F'ing Roll.'
Binns was standing next to Hewett. Maybe it was directed at him. I agree it was probably directed at Binns, but it has to be seen in context.

There are plenty of things to be upset about in this game, and I don't think anyone needs to draw a long bow looking for stuff.

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