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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:33 pm 
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Just sack Voss he is clueless as a coach
Team selection is pathetic why do they reward players who have not been performing and not rewarding players who have been playing well


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:34 pm 
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Sadly a big part of the flakiness is Docherty.

Handball to him and he so often fumbles or panics.

Looks to pad his stats too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:35 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
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Whoever thinks this a coaching issue has rocks in their head

Players have dropped intensity and pressure

No Pitto, no Carlton v Xerri


LOL. Head in the sand. It’s not just this week mate. We’re a shambles


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Head in the sand is not seeing how poor our players are doing the basics under no pressure.

When you lose faith in your leaders... effort, skills etc all go to shit

So what you are saying is that if you don't like your coach it's ok to drop your own standards just to make a point.
We will never get a "good" coach, never.
Who would want to go to a club where the players are allowed to run the show.
Another 20+ years for us then if this is what our supporters accept.

I don't accept it but it's human nature...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:35 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:

Exactly. We’ve seen these players play much better than this. The coach is responsible for creating an environment that gets the best out of the players. He has proven time and time again he is unable to do that.

The alternative is you trade everyone of value out for draft picks and go through a full rebuild our lord saviour Voss so he can eventually have a crack with a new list and not be able to blame the players. And if they’re still no good, it’s the players fault again.


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So what you are saying it's never the players fault only the coaches.
As an FYI, for 20+ years we have been blaming and sacking coaches and falling for the playing group is nearly premiership quality.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:35 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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[quote="bondiblue"]Whoever thinks this a coaching issue has rocks in their head

Players have dropped intensity and pressure

No Pitto, no Carlton v Xerri


LOL. Head in the sand. It’s not just this week mate. We’re a shambles


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Head in the sand is not seeing how poor our players are doing the basics under no pressure.

When you lose faith in your leaders... effort, skills etc all go to shit


Exactly. We’ve seen these players play much better than this. The coach is responsible for creating an environment that gets the best out of the players. He has proven time and time again he is unable to do that.

The alternative is you trade everyone of value out for draft picks and go through a full rebuild our lord saviour Voss so he can eventually have a crack with a new list and not be able to blame the players. And if they’re still no good, it’s the players fault again.


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What a load of shit

Players switch off[/quote]

Just out of interest, do you want to keep Voss through another rebuild? Because clearly that’s where we’re at


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:36 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
What a load of shit

Players switch off

Why did they do that?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:36 pm 
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It’s about creating an environment that gets the best out of them and implementing strategy that makes the game easier to execute. But whatever


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Easier to execute???
Kick to player in space.
Kick goals when in front of them.
How much easier can it get.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:37 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:

Exactly. We’ve seen these players play much better than this. The coach is responsible for creating an environment that gets the best out of the players. He has proven time and time again he is unable to do that.

The alternative is you trade everyone of value out for draft picks and go through a full rebuild our lord saviour Voss so he can eventually have a crack with a new list and not be able to blame the players. And if they’re still no good, it’s the players fault again.


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So what you are saying it's never the players fault only the coaches.
As an FYI, for 20+ years we have been blaming and sacking coaches and falling for the playing group is nearly premiership quality.


No I’m saying it’s both. The list is not up to it and the coach is not up to it. We will not have success with this group. We need to start again, rebuild the list and get a new coach in. We are a @#$%&! rabble from top to bottom


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:38 pm 
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Serious question:

Can anyone name a single coaching move we made to address the Norf dominance that qtr?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:39 pm 
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the players have stopped playing for voss and each other. morale is non existent. game plan is not up to scratch, too few willing to pay the price. players like docherty and motlop keep getting gifted games when their level is worlds below afl standard.

no one is willing to pay the price, while the guy beside him shirks it. the culutre at our club is toxic, and spiralling out of control right in front of our eyes. season was over after round 1 - and since then we've played hard for 1 qtr every game before the other coaching box figures us out and moves the magnets, leaving our group of mediocre coaches scratching their heads void of plan b.

that is our season 2025 review.


all i can hope for is wright is licking his chops of cracking in and burning this place down, so we can regeneate and rebuild. first point of business, send voss packing tonight. hansen too. bring docherty into a coaching role and off the field, and start the players auditioning for season 2026. who wants to be here?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:39 pm 
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@#$%&! the players, we should keep Voss for the next ten years and tell them to harden up and deal with it.

We’ve changed coach after coach after coach. It’s the players who need to change their attitude.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:40 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Whoever thinks this a coaching issue has rocks in their head

Players have dropped intensity and pressure

No Pitto, no Carlton v Xerri


Bullshit. Turnovers forced because they have no idea what to do out there.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:40 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
I don't accept it but it's human nature...

Elite athletes never think this way.
They are too competitive by nature.
If our players are tanking, they need to be moved on.
No player is bigger than the club.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:40 pm 
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That was our worst quarter of football for the year. The middle absolutely trounced. When we do get the ball there's no movement, just a whole lot of stagnant pointing.

You can say it's the players all you want but I think it's a complete loss of faith in the system, game plan and leadership.

It's not like we didn't know we were [REDACTED] anyway, but it doesn't make it any less depressing watching it unfold.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:40 pm 
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the players have stopped playing for voss and each other. morale is non existent. game plan is not up to scratch, too few willing to pay the price. players like docherty and motlop keep getting gifted games when their level is worlds below afl standard.

no one is willing to pay the price, while the guy beside him shirks it. the culutre at our club is toxic, and spiralling out of control right in front of our eyes. season was over after round 1 - and since then we've played hard for 1 qtr every game before the other coaching box figures us out and moves the magnets, leaving our group of mediocre coaches scratching their heads void of plan b.

that is our season 2025 review.


all i can hope for is wright is licking his chops of cracking in and burning this place down, so we can regeneate and rebuild. first point of business, send voss packing tonight. hansen too. bring docherty into a coaching role and off the field, and start the players auditioning for season 2026. who wants to be here?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:41 pm 
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@#$%&! the players, we should keep Voss for the next ten years and tell them to harden up and deal with it.

We’ve changed coach after coach after coach. It’s the players who need to change their attitude.


And that's done how exactly?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:41 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Whoever thinks this a coaching issue has rocks in their head

Players have dropped intensity and pressure

No Pitto, no Carlton v Xerri


Bullshit. Turnovers forced because they have no idea what to do out there.


This. The game looks easy when the players understand the game plan and it’s effective


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:42 pm 
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That was our worst quarter of football for the year. The middle absolutely trounced. When we do get the ball there's no movement, just a whole lot of stagnant pointing.

You can say it's the players all you want but I think it's a complete loss of faith in the system, game plan and leadership.

It's not like we didn't know we were [REDACTED] anyway, but it doesn't make it any less depressing watching it unfold.


Also very well said


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:42 pm 
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We will tell what they are made of in 2nd half.
Season on the line
Careers on the line.

Let's see what they are made of

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 2:43 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:

Exactly. We’ve seen these players play much better than this. The coach is responsible for creating an environment that gets the best out of the players. He has proven time and time again he is unable to do that.

The alternative is you trade everyone of value out for draft picks and go through a full rebuild our lord saviour Voss so he can eventually have a crack with a new list and not be able to blame the players. And if they’re still no good, it’s the players fault again.


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So what you are saying it's never the players fault only the coaches.
As an FYI, for 20+ years we have been blaming and sacking coaches and falling for the playing group is nearly premiership quality.


No I’m saying it’s both. The list is not up to it and the coach is not up to it. We will not have success with this group. We need to start again, rebuild the list and get a new coach in. We are a @#$%&! rabble from top to bottom


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Look, you may well be right that it is both.
But when we all know, the rest of the AFL know that our players are slow, have a skills issue etc maybe just this once we start with the playing group first.
Then the coach.


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