Its not hilarious. So don't laugh at something that is possible. Its a possibility.
I was told that a player in contract being delisted was being delusional only to see LOB delisted.

Wright traded out Grundy. The AA ruck

Anything is possible.

I like TDK and dont want to belittle him. I hope he stays, but I'm not desperate and I will respond to your post.

I know some people rate TDK, I don't. I know he's played great games in the ruck but fails against the bigger bulkier rucks...all of them.
He may have had a good number of disposals, but in the round 1 and 3 his opponent was most valuable player on the ground, and we lost because of that. Fact.

I've already mentioned all the rucks who have beaten TDK this year. Too many to entitle him to $1M yesterday, today and tomorrow imo. Most beat him in the ruck. He gets cheap kicks and bombs them forward. Some people like players bombing it forwrd. We've found it doesn't help even with Coleman medallists ahead.

Now, Gawn and Cox...like I said anything is possible. I'll take them for a Mill. Said it before Gawn is worth it. He goes fwd and he's hard to spoil. Damn good mark. TDK not as good....nowhere near as good in the ruck as Gawn and Cox. Other than Grundy (7 time AA in a row and captain), which other ruck in the comp is on $1M or more than Grundy at $900k?

Yeah TDK may get bigger and heaver to compete against the big rucks, but he'll lose his abilty to jump if he does get bigger, then what happens to his upside?; that's his one wood. Take away his jump and he flounders.

I like TDK as the Fwd - Ruck. You love him and I think you want to pay him $1M. That's our offer. Would you pay him $1.5 to retain TDK?

I've said it before, but I think the Sainys are paying that silly money because they have the room and dont have too many star players on big money. I also think he'll play Forward more than he does at Carlton and Marshall will do the ruckwork against the heavier built ruck. If we played him with a better first ruck than Pitto, I would want to keep him for a Mil. That's the offer

and to your first point saying $1M is not big money, who are you trying to kid?

Voss would be wise to release the game plan and let the players either succeed or drown.
He will win on both accounts.

I've already made my point. By 2027 $1m will be equivalent of $734k just a few years ago. In terms of the cap, it's above average, but its not superstar money.

In the same post you said "I hope he stays" and "some people rate TDK, I don't"
If you don't rate him why would you hope he stays?

Yes I want to keep TDK as he is just hitting his prime and is likely to only get better. IMO He is easily worth $1m with the increases in the cap, but no way in hell would I pay $1.5m. If that's what it takes then let him go.

I'm of the opinion that we're in for another complete rebuild so I doubt TDK will be around for the next time we have any real chance of competing for a flag, so we probably should be starting to offload some assets while they have value. If we're forced into one and TDK can get a payday then it might be best for everyone.

Firstly we have to assume that he is restricting the players, which I highly doubt.
But let's say he is, then you have a solid point.

Carlton is running a dual list strategy as it awaits Tom De Koning’s decision on whether he stays at the club or takes up a mind-blowingly lucrative offer from St Kilda.

The Blues have set no deadline on a TDK decision, but Moneyball understands they have strong contingency plans in place just in case.

It means they are already in the marketplace for trade and free agency acquisitions for later this year, as De Koning mulls over the Saints’ stunning $1.7m per season offer over seven years.

One of those players who could be in the mix is contracted Magpie big man Darcy Cameron, who is seeking a new deal with Collingwood.

Carlton’s No.1 priority is to keep De Koning and it remains hopeful the star ruckman’s connection to his teammates could yet see him remain loyal and stay, despite a difference of more than $600,000 per season.

The difference equates to almost $5m across the life of the two offers.

De Koning sat down with incoming Carlton chief executive Graham Wright last Friday in an effort to get more clarity on his long-term vision for the club.

Jungle drums are beating for last touch out of bounds
Reduces at least 50-60% of the ruck contests
Saints could be paying 1.7 million for a redundant position
Pitto is better at Centre Bounce than TDK at winning the clearance

No boundary throw ins reduces the reliance on have to get to every contest

Shhh ! keep that to yourself Syd .

I didnt mean to hit a raw nerve re dont say its hilarious. Didn't mean to jake. Point was anything can happen and plenty of surprises to suggest that its not hilarious. I get how the values of the new caps given the number of players on the list hasn't changed. I thought you may think its worth our while matching TDK's $1.7 offer from Saints.

I don't rate TDK as a great No 1 ruckman, like others do, I gave my reasons, but love him as a Fwd Ruck. I'm Ok to pay him the Mil and hope we find a No 1 ruck on less money. But that's me. In that case, I could see why Wright would want to spend 900 for each Curnow and McKay plus $1M for 3 forwards. Something has to give in that sitauion.

Its no secret I love the 2 rucks, and whilst I use to be confident to say Pitto was one of the best No 1 ruckmen and had stats to back that, I'm almost in the braithy school of thought. Pitto is a plodder. Just can't get around. He's literally lame. For me, TDK is the equal best Fwd-Ruck in the competition because he's tall, and he can run and jump to unmatchable heights with arms strecthed, something that's taken away from him in the ruck contest.

If we had a Gawn Jackson combo, where TDK is the Jackson in the Carlton combo, and a replacement for Pitto, but we have no No1 ruck to fill that spot, imo....O'Keefe still too young for that serious role. Remember the 2021 Grand Final, when Jackson took the ruck in the 3rd after Gawn rucked to no great advantage first half, and the game turned in Dees favour? Sometimes you need something different when the big boys tire. It was a greatrtactic we used when Pitto wore down the opposition ruck. TDK did it to Gawn in the final quarter of the Final vs Dees in 2023, and kicked 2 first qtr goals as Fwd-Ruck. My dream happened, but that's the past

You may well be right about a rebuild, but I think it may be just a small rebuild given the spine we have for the next 5 years. As I've said, we don't have a cap problem as represented in the media (as click bait), we have a lack of good picks to trade and get our FS and NGA options.

Diplomatic sidex

You don't restrict the players, but you do change the structure.
Heard of the sayings (make the ground bigger/smaller, flooding, pressing up, etc.)?

ps. One day, maybe some of you might work it out. Sorry not very diplomatic but I don't do sarcasm.

Diplomatic sidex

You don't restrict the players, but you do change the structure.
Heard of the sayings (make the ground bigger/smaller, flooding, pressing up, etc.)?

ps. One day, maybe some of you might work it out. Sorry not very diplomatic but I don't do sarcasm.

Contested football does not allow for time and space to execute. That’s what our coach keeps wanting us to play, I’ll say it again - contested footy……doesn’t allow us to find space in the forward line, hence why our scoring is down…… contested footy.