I think he touches on the right themes but gives us nothing.
The line that annoys me most is “I’d like to think we…….”
But doesn’t tell us what’s happening and why. That tells us intent not action.
Hence we only have media reasoning to listen for reasons, which leads to us believing a bias, mischievous interpretation.

He did say he encouraged players to maintain the intensity, and doesn’t know why they didn’t.
Ie it was not an instruction as you suggest Drewgirl.

Charlie alluded to the possibility the players did it to slow down game bc a lack of rotations.
If true, that’s the tail wagging the dog.

We can’t handle more that 8 injuries. That’s all I can put it to, because I know the football this group can produce when they are on. We just can’t turn it on with too many injuries.

Calling Cottrell, calling Walsh, calling Elijah…we need your run.

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But his hands weren’t clamping the ball like last week. Obviously very slippery conditions didn’t help.

Just because marks weren’t sticking he added value. I thought OKeefe presented well and his body on body work was refreshing to see. He shepherds.

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We can’t turn it back on. That’s so obvious coz Vossy wants them to. Where’s the motivator of men when you need it. I don’t get it. They come out breathing fire, thanks Vossy, the can’t get switched on after half time, no thanks Vossy

Vossy better turn this problem around or he will not be coaching us next year.

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Stefchook mentions him every week for the last 4 games. I agree with him or her.

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Yep, I’ll take the win, but, that was top of the charts least enjoyable for me too.

The oppo were kids

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Maybe you’re right, maybe the boys showed they have got what it takes, because they’ve shown it every game except v GWS and Adelaide, but it’s something else.

We played fever pitch footy, running hard, running for each other, and broke tackles. Can’t say we didn’t, but wtf happens after half time. That’s been the question since round 1.

Forget the Saad midfield or wing role. He doesn’t have the stamina. He’s built for burst speed. You see he fatigues when the defence cop repeat entries.

I’m sure you’re right it’s the players. Can’t be all of them, but the ones who drop off intensity must be weeded out.

I think our skills are not top notch. We all know that. We go into our shells as soon as the pressure from opp increases, or we take our foot off the pedal believing we can switch it on

You’re right that there’s something wrong, but what it is exactly, no one really knows. It’s so frustrating, no wonder shit is thrown at the players and the coach.

No doubt change will happen at the end of the season. It has to. My boys walked out half way through the 3rd with their mates. It wasn’t good footy to watch.

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Charlie also mentioned that they did it because of injuries and he loved playing the way they did in the first quarter but knows they can not play like that for 4 quarters.
He also said it was nice to slow it down a little bit.
He pretty much spelled out the limitation on the playing group and the fact they went into preservation mode.
We all want the 1st Q game style for the whole game, but clearly we are unable to with our current team and it wasn't necessary this week anyway.
Also Voss was not happy a lot of times during the game, he was much more animated in the coaches box this week.
The real concern is players dropping marks and missing targets by foot with little to no pressure.
If the first quarter was Plan A and Plan B is to slow it down, then the players need to get better with their skills.
It was quite frustrating to watch.
Happy for the win.

You may be right. Someone’s view has to be close to the pin.

For the first time this season Vossy said clearly he didn’t want them to drop the intensity. They obviously did.

What shits me is why didn’t he motivate them to take on the game in the last quarter. I know the conditions were shit, but shit for both sides. The players aren’t listening or the coach is not instructing. That’s anyones guess if it’s one of those two reason.

If players aren’t capable of playin 4 quarters of a contest, that’s another issue altogether.

I’m stumped.

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Very happy to get a win . Any win . Sure beats a loss . Considering the atrocious conditions and the fact it was interstate I thought we did well . As far as West Coast goes give "em a bit of credit . After all , they pushed the Cats for three quarters until running out of puff and ultimately going down by 40 points . We did them by 30 points so in comparison we did OK . Beggars can't be choosers , take what you are given .

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I actually don't think the players are listening, in his post match regarding the fade-outs he said he said he will continue to go over those conversations and that it's not like they haven't been had.
Watch from 4:40 regarding what he wants and that the players already have a clear picture, he then addresses the above.
Let's just say if this is not due to fitness (which I think it is, mainly due to our skill errors) then we may have another case of the tail wagging the dog.
And if that is the case and Voss is considered good to go next season by Wright, then it's time to start showing the playing group they play for the club and the coach or they get the door.
Voss is clearly as frustrated as we all are.

I think its fair to say we put the cue in the rack after going up 10 goals to 1 halfway through the second.

Early Saturday game coming up, red eye flight, injury to Charlie. Not worth it.

100 % we put the cue in the rack . Charlie and HOK out of the game . It was the only way to go for mine with two less rotations . Good tactics from a so called tacticless Coach .

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I get everyone jumping up and down because it's mirrored the rest of the season (I've been one of our biggest critics).

However, I do think yesterday we had a reasonable excuse to take the foot off, based on these factors.

Also - the conditions were atrocious, we didn't need to kill ourselves and risk further injury in the wet and mud.

It's just a shame that our lack of skills make the tactical change look like a mistake.
Otherwise we could've run that game out with a lot more goals if the players could hit targets and mark the ball.

Trav is that you?

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AS we have learned at the end of the 2022 2023 & 2024 season, percentage is critical.
If we are playing for Finals, we missed that.

Vossy did say he wanted to keep up intensity, and Charlie said they couldnt play that way for 4 quarters...how about slowing it down for a quarter, the third to get our breath back after a rest in the sheds and turn it on in the last, for percentage?

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By the sounds of it injury prevention was the major reason.
But I'm with you, turn it on and off, it was a good chance to get it right before the Port then Pies games.

Looked back at my posts in the match thread, like a log book.

Posted Plan A is speed on ball, and having Chinka back helped gel the group with run, and without Cottrell and Walsh it was really impressive. Proves we can pit speed on the ball.

Then Plan B is our slow tempo where spotting short passes to maintain possession and work through oppo defence is the name of the game. We don't have the skill across the board to hit targets every time.

I have no doubt having Walsh Cottrell and Elijah in the team, with Cincotta, Cerra Saad Fantasia and Ollie Hollands, we have the players to put speed on the ball as well as any other team. We just can't get them all on the park at the same time. We did after round 2 last year for 5-6 weeks, and apart from Elijah, did in the 2nd half of 2023.

Its the other players we had playing yesterday who aren't developed enough yet, or we should be looking at to improve on.

Compare Fantasia's running, connection and one percenters to Motlop.
Williams only played 54% game time and we were down 2 players. I know he's good, but I reckon he's a burst player and sub is his best position given his age.
Acres prods along and I think he's lost a yard too. Age is catching up with him too.
Lord, Binns and Carroll were really good but still young 20yo's and hope they can keep improving

Cripps really let the WCE mids dominate him in the clearances in the 2nd and 3rd Qtr. Embarrassing TBH. Doesn't look 100% and we have no one to replace his best with Walsh out.

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That was my thought too. Why not turn it on for a burst in the last and just bury the game and rack up some %? Conditions were shitty but the Eagles were the team to do it against.

Given we've got Port on the Thurs after North, I wouldn't be surprised to see the same approach if we have a good first half on Sat.

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