I only saw the first 20 minutes of the game, so can't comment on the rest.
But it being Essendon*, if before the game I was offered a win, any sortoffkgwin
I would have taken it.

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Just a thought. It wasn't long ago that TCers were saying they were sick and tired of honourable losses.
Now it appears dishonourable wins are no good either.

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Take the win but too many conditional players.

If everyone played with the level of effort Ollie puts in we wouldn’t lose many games.

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No one here will be happy until we win number 17.

We've done the "play kids at all costs" approach. It didn't work, and it established a de-emphasis on results that I believe has contributed to the lack of steel and ruthlessness in the team today.

Yes, Acres has his flaws, but his performance last night was one that none of our kids are capable of. That's no slight against them, it takes years of development to develop the necessary strength and endurance.

Also, remember which AFL clubs have been the most consistently competitive over the last 25 years and how they develop their young players. Sacrificing wins and gifting games to youth is not the way.

And then there's the Hawthorn pick...

Well said, it sounds like like Keogh is sentimental for the Bolton years of “green shoots”.

Looking more like Kade Simpson every game.

His efforts can't be questioned

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I love it. I love that we beat Essendon*. I love it that Cazzesman and many others enjoyed the win.
And I love it that the supposed "realists" still found something in a win to be devastated about. Some posters are unhappy that Cincotta was rushed in. Others are happy that Cincotta played well. Some are happy O'Keefe played well. Others are unhappy that Lemmey wasn't selected.
And of course we get the usual from Keogh to anyone who doesn't agree with his "insight". "Do you watch other games"

All week I read about how posters are disgusted by the club. And they're not attending the game. And they've had enough. Yet they still keep coming back to incessantly repeat their tales of woe and be the centre of attention.

We played poorly. Yet we still won the game. And if we win the next 2, we'll be 7-7 with a % better than 100%.
Cerra is playing great footy. Jack is playing great footy. Motlop stepped up. HOK had a great debut in conditions that don't suit a big man. Saad ripped into Durham after his bump on Cerra. I loved it.
And as much as anything, I loved beating a Brad Scott coached team.

Take the joy away from yourselves as much as you want but don't expect me to step into your mire of pathetic doom.

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Zac Williams hearing footsteps and dropping an easy overhead mark in front of goal in the 2nd qtr wasn't great either.

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I don't think anyone is suggesting we replace half the team with kids, all at once... that's lunacy.

But the season is shot... barring a minor miracle, we are not playing finals and Hawthorn will get a top 10 pick... we need to deal with it and accept it. Supporters want to see a light at the end of this endless tunnel, and it ain't happening with the usual suspects.

What I'd like to see is when a player comes in the side, they get a better shot at gelling with his team mates and not this revolving door method that we seem employ. Providing their form stacks up, 2-3-4 games is not too unreasonable. I'd rather carry a kid than someone that's had too good for too long.

Why does HOF get dropped but Gov is guaranteed selection?... HOK was good last night but no doubt he makes way for Harry next week. We've been salivating at the return of Fantasia all year... for 5 possesions... yeah/nah, I wanna see Flynn.

We seem to be playing kids just to cover injuries... and that's my major gripe. And that won't change while all the coaches are in survival mode.

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There are always positives in a win

Silvagni...he is friggin awesome in defence. Why wasn't it done before (consistently) ??? rarely loses a contest (if at all in D50)
Motlop...good form/zipped around
Ollie Hollands - bulked up...went beast mode. He's a bit more physical in the contest now.
Zac Williams - although inconsistent...provides a spark on the forward line of energy/exuberance
Cooper Lord - improving
Cincotta - plays beast mode 100% of the time.
Carlton are in general difficult to score against...

You take out the plodders from this team and you can start building a robust & resilient team. Tough teams win.
Take out White and Fantasia...put in E Hollands, McKay or Cottrell. There is some light there (I hope).

So your happy we are 5 and 7
Your happy we have only beaten North West Coast a depleted Essendon* StKilda
The only win worth mentioning is Geelong who for whatever reason reason we play well against
Your happy that guys like McGovern and Williams shit their pants every week so called leaders
Your happy we get creamed against an average team depleted for the last 3 quarters when % is so important

The thing is this
Blue Vain and Cazzeman can live in their fantasy world
The fact is this club started a rebuild in 2015
That’s 10 years ago
Weitering McKay Silvangi Curnow all are now in their late 20s
We are an average team
All the teams mentioned except Geelong are in a rebuilding phase
It shows how shit we have been that certain posters seem satisfied with a performance like that last night

Regards Cazzesman

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I"ll take a win every day of the week . Credit to the young Bombers coz they had a red hot go . Don't forget , they pushed Brisbane on there own dunghill who just happen to be the reigning Premiers . Mind you I was a tad peeved how we lost our dare after quarter time . How many times did we stop and prop when we should have surged forward . Sure , Essendons pressure went up but our lack of dare contributed to that . I know its a bit of fools gold win but its a win never the less . Move on .

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Nah, I hate being 5 and 7. But I enjoy wins. Especially against Essendon*.
And I won't let your lemon sucking view on life drag me down. A win against the filthy Bummers will be better than a loss until the day I die.

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Keogh this is where you miss the plot.

I am not happy with where the club is at. I'm not happy about 50% of the game. Like every supporter, I am massively disappointed that we are often 2 steps forward and 3 steps back.

I hate that the Club can't take that next step. I am frustrated that the grass is always greener somewhere else. I am bewildered that we compete so strongly in so many important areas of the game, only to miss that 30 metre pass inside 50.

I am frustrated that a lad like Jagga Smith misses the start of his AFL career. I despair at the lack of intensity shown by some players. I despair that injuries happen at the worst time.

An AFL club is a massive beast. Probably 250+ people all trying to make something great happen. It takes talent, resiliency and alot of good old-fashioned luck over a 5 year period. When a part misses, other parts struggle.

Voss said 6 weeks ago O'Keefe was a mile off. He mentioned several strong conversations were had and then woosh. Things clicked and he was a highlight for the Bombers game. Who saw that coming. Maybe Lemmy might be the next one to click. Fingers Crossed.

Ben Campo has 30 in the VFL for a BOG. Is he ready?

Cinc comes back from injury and does a number on Merrett. If Cinc is not there to do that job do we win? Mmmmmmm.

We are actually not an average team. We have average moments and some average skills have led to disappointing losses.
This team beat Geelong, who are now considered GF contenders. We were neck and neck with the Pies 10 minutes into the 3rd quarter. Another GF contender. We are 10% off being a very solid team.

But everytime you and others post, I think..................Don't give me your problems, give me your solutions.

You want to tear the entire place to the ground. Sack everyone. All that would do is make us the next North Melbourne.
I can tell you this......Playing 4 or 5, skinny 18-19 year olds, is not going to make it any better.

So maybe those sitting comfortably on the couch could lay out a complete Plan for CFC over the next 3-4 years.

I would rather sit here on a Monday knowing we beat the Bombers and played poorly at times than having lost to the arch enemy. The win hasn't made me see rainbows and unicorns but I did see some light at the end of the tunnel in the 1st Quarter and some determination and grit at the very end. It is always Glass half full - I'm strange that way.

Regards Cazzesman

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What’s so special about beating Essendon* Collingwood compared to other teams
It’s 2025
We arnt in the VFL anymore
We have had a draft for 38 years
We have had a salary cap for 38 years
Out of all the Victorian clubs we are the ones who have adapted the worst
The way it is to me is have we learnt from our mistakes
No we haven’t
Last nights win was meaningless to a large extent
It’s what the club does at the end of the season
Because the rebuild and I use that term loosely hasn’t worked

It’s always great beating Essendon*!
Regardless of the ladder position Carlton vs Essendon* games are always passionate and hard to tip.

Pros
Cerra
Walsh
Hewitt
SOS
Motlops best game of the season
I thought Williams was great in the 1st qtr
Acres last qtr goal
HOK contested marking

Cons
Inability to kick goals against the run of play
Inaccurate goal kicking
Reverting back to our trusted “bomb it long inside 50 tactic”
Acres horrendous disposal
Lost 3 qtrs. of football
Fantasia

On another note, I really appreciated how Cincotta was able to shut down Merrett.
That said, can we afford to keep playing him if he only registers 3 touches for the entire game?

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whats better not a lot keogh,
next sunday i sit dowen to a meal with a bunch of mates I've known since were were 6 or 7
I barrack for carlton
they barrack for Essendon*

I cant @#$%&! what for that lunch!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

im actually interested in the stat for once.

projected scores.

felt like the game was alot closer than it should be.

11.12 vs 11.4

23 shots to 15 and we had 3 or 4 on the fulls as well ...