Great post.

I think its the last line that Des has alluded to previously, plus Weitering watching the Boyd hit from Amartey and doing nothing. So, onfield leadership, commeradery and mateship is what's shown to be lacking.

Coach can direct players to fly the flag, and show support....and hit the opposition harder than we are....this bash crash style we keep hearing from David King is a fallacy.

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What I would give for one killer! There’s 40 odd guys on the list, surely there’s a couple that don’t mind a stink.

There’ll never be another line in the sand game, but FMD, we need a line in the sand moment.

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but the whole ‘fly the flag’ argument needs a bit of perspective. Namely, how thin we are for depth - especially in positions held by the likely types. We are, after all, flirting with idea of enforced time off.

Also, one popular opinion that needs to @#$%&! right off is that Kennedy was somehow mistreated last year. HE was the one that was crook during the week, but put his hand up to play. HE was the one that was taking time away to be with his wife, but not so much time that he wasn’t available to play. He’s gone. We traded him for the pick that landed a 200 game CHB.

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Good decision long term .

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This weekend would suit me.
But yes, we don't have that mongrel on our team that will always go with little to no respect for safety of themselves or others.
But also the AFL is trying to beat that out of them anyway.

Honestly, I'd just be happy to see us hitting targets and not being so wasteful in front of goals.
I think that'd make me happier more than anything.

Maybe Voss needs to address the whole club on Friday and state the following:
For every goal kicked he'll "donate" $1000 to the playing group as a whole.
For every point kicked or missed shot on goals the players will "donate" $1000 to Voss.
Or something of that nature or if it is frowned upon then do it with running drills or kicking practice or something else that creates buy in.
This could shake up delivery, leads and goal kicking accuracy all in one hit.

And if that works then add another layer for the defence, goals vs points against.
Then targets hit and missed by foot.

I don't think the rest of the year is going to reflect if Voss is the right man or not.
Carlton has proved time and time again that when expectations are high they crumble but when the pressure is off then they play some of the best football in the comp.
We are a snowballs chance of making the eight despite the general consensus we need to win 9 from 12 I think we will need to win 10. Teams sitting 6,7 and 8 are at 7 wins with greater percentage if they all win 6 of there remaining 11 games this will put them on 13 wins - For us to leap frog one of them we need 14 .
I simply can't see us winning 10 from 12 - so the season is done - When this happens we generally play our better football

No one who has been at this club for 25 plus years has been able to get the team to perform when the expectations are high - If we had beaten Swans and GWS the run into the finals would have been far easier - these were must win games and we failed yet again . This is a whole club issue that there needs to be a remedy found it doesn't just lie with the Coach.

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Turn it into a game.

That's something that would be akin to their maturity.

Kids like games.

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Even more so now that the poor players will be sooking about their names being in the media. They will stink it up even more. You watch. Mentally weak they are.

Hear, hear. And in my opinion, you didn't even need to write the rest of it. It's the coach's prerogative to make an early sub, and he did so. That we were much better after the sub is largely coincidental, but like your supporting evidence it provides a boost if needed. At the end of the day, it is not mistreatment to bench a player. Lot of people who say the team's not mentally hard enough seem strangely willing to throw him a victim card.

Their emotional resilience is somewhat questionable, for sure.

Love this. So true.

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What about the call that Harry and Charlie can't work together, because they get in each other's way, by the same people who blame Vossy's game plan for the inability of the team to connect with the 2 KPFs despite being 4th, or thereabouts, for inside 50's in the AFL.

Can't have it both ways.

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The headline numbers were that we are 18th for inside 50 retention, twice as bad as 17th. They were also amongst the easiest kicks in the comp.

The forward group aren’t connected with each other, never mind the transition game.

It’s a bit rough to single out the new guy, but I’ve seen Frankie Evans try to spot up a teammate from inside 9m. Tight angle, sure, but @#$%&! all the ducks…

We win a lot of clearances inside 50 (by volume, if not percentage), but we don’t get a shot off.

Charlie is the only threat from 50-70m. We’ve got a few others that think they are, and even more that think the ball is going to travel that distance off half back, across field no less.

The forwards are living in fantasy land.

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Real Scomo to Hawaii vibes from Voss during the bye (going to Fiji).

True, but the President isn’t here either… and the CEO is halfway out the door.

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Just a complete shambles.

We should've known when Sayers got hacked* what sort of year we would be in for.

My husband said at the time it was a really bad omen and I laughed at him!

I’ve got no problem with him going to Fiji. My issue is with him coming back!


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