I don't lose too much sleep over how Kennedy is doing this year. The way WB plays makes his sort - good at finding contested ball, overhead marking and attacking the goals, and not worrying too much about defensive accountability or two-way running - look very good indeed. But as exciting and impressive as WB were last night, they conceded 20 goals; they scored 113 points and lost. If we rebound tomorrow against GWS we'll be a game behind them, even though we've been way off it and they've been hyped to the rafters as some kind of superpower. Yeah, their footy is way better on the eye, but we keep being told defence wins premierships, and that's the approach we've taken, so we keep the likes of Hewett and Cerra to bring the defensive balance to the more attacking Cripps and Walsh.

I guess we'll see... maybe WB will score heavily enough to go deep in September and we'll look silly for not using their gameplan with MK at the heart of it. But I don't think they've unlocked any abilities we didn't know about nor fixed any deficiencies. Good luck to him in any case.

Treloar Jones Darcy Weightman and Ugle

Fair bit of talent missing there
We lose JSOS and struggle to cover him

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Doc wasn't the reason we lost that final.
We had lost 6 of 8 leading into that game with wins over WC and North.
When Bob Murphy was left out of the Grand final the dogs had won 6 of their last 7 leading up to it.

Should Doc have played, probably not
Would the result been different, definitely not.

As a football player I have never been on the Doc bandwagon I always thought he was a turnover king.

As a person who has had the life struggles he has has you have to admire his commitment

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I disagree, I don't think he's the best in the league but to say he isn't a good coach is a bit of a reach.

Chris Scott has been praised as being a good coach who I and a lot of other people think is pretty ordinary and Voss has bested him several times now.

The biggest issue I have with this constant need to sack the coach all the time, is that we have been doing this for the whole of this century and we have been crap.
How long did Geelong stick with Scott before he won a premiership (not including his first on the back of Mark Thompson and their dip in the supplements section)?
Answer, it was 11 years.
It is a shining example of stability at the top, a defined game plan, astute trading/drafting and luck with injuries.
(let's not mention cheap farms).

We finally have a stable coaching group like them or not, we have a very defined game plan, we are just missing a handful of the players to execute it and we need to keep trimming the annually injured.

Our list is our problem, coaching can only do so much with a shallow list and high injuries.
We are desperate for speed and skill, if we get more of that then we can rely less on stoppage to stoppage contested football.
This alone will reduce injuries and game fadeouts, especially if we can fix the F50 entries to capitalise on all the grunt work we can do.
If Lord keeps going as good as he is and then we add Jagga, our midfield will be versatile and damaging and most importantly not relying on the few to do all the work.

Cue the excuses

I think you mean cue the whingers.

You can mitigate all you like but the bottom line is this. The position we are in is completely unacceptable.

Has to be major accountability now.

We have a myriad of issues in the entire footy dept but I’d start with Lloyd and Voss. Now.

Wasting another season is not an option.

If I was Wright, I’d also eyeball our high paid senior players and put them on @#$%&! notice. Earn your pay every week or we’ll @#$%&! you off. Enough of accepting this inconsistent unreliable bullshit.

This is 2014 revisited

Club never learns

Can’t continually rely on your top end to win games

System and game plan beat individual talent every day of the week

Should have continued to balance the list with youth after Teague was sacked

Instead we over rate our position and became complacent

Voss needs to go

No, I’m mean the excuses. All the reasons none of this is on Voss.

If Voss can coach our players to be faster, better skilled and increase their football IQ, then I'll be happy to blame him.
But like most Carlton supporters over the last 20+ years, we seem to over value our list and take the easy shots.
Blind Freddy could see how outpaced we were today and the only thing that beats pace is skill and well...............

But hey let's sack another coach, reset the team, go into another rebuild, throw all the cards in the air, because history has proven how well that works for us.