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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:18 am 
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The energy without the ball. Closing down the gaps. Small forwards pushing up the ground and applying the pressure around stoppages. Shutting down more gaps. Then being quick enough, zippy enough , and have the endurance to turn and attack. The rotations in the center bounces another bonus. To me it is more value than an extra tall. Even more so now that Cripps is comfy going forward and the team is fine with him out of the midfield action for a bit.


That pressure looked really good iagainst north and to a degree against Weagles.

Let’s hope that continues. Winning form is good form.

Fog and Motlop have not been consistent

Young can fit in imo. MC have choice to go either way.

Oh yeah I can accept Pitto defined as lumbering, but TDK and Young are not lumbering. They are athletic and quick for their height.


I think the problem is not that small forwards bering more energy, it's that Harry isn't bringing any energy right now, and Young is


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:19 am 
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One of the things I struggle with is key big men constantly trying to mark the ball in packs.

As a very young lad I remember watching John Nicholls play at the massive height of 6' 2". Sure he could take a mark but his forte was as a tap ruckman. When he rested up forward, he would often direct the incoming high ball into the arms of the Mosquito Fleet, like it was a centre square bounce.

I think (?) it was 'Tiger' Crosswell who wrote that he came on to play one of his first games and ran to the FP. Big Nick was there at FF and Nick said, 'Stand over there son and the next time a high ball comes in I will Tap it to you." Nekminit - Kick, Tap, Goal to Tiger.

Back me up here Mick :donk: :donk:

Young is not a great pack mark, so why doesn't he work on the Tapping side of his game? He can get higher extension with a one-arm outstretched tap than a two-arm attempted mark. In an inside 50 marking contest, he should play the percentages and direct the ball more, mostly over the back to run onto. That Kaos ball worked well for the Tigers.

We have 55 inside 50 entries and basically bugger all contested pack marks. Play the percentages and let the small forwards Eat.

If the ball is kicked to 30 out and punched forward to 40 out, then the defence has more open space to work in. If it tapped further over the back to 20 out, the defence is under far more pressure to clear the zone.

Call me old school. I miss Big Nick and Tiger. :cry: :cry:

Regards Cazzesman


100 % back you up Cazz . With the risk of boring everyone to tears again I'll say it again , there was and only ever be one " Big Nick ". Yes , Big Nick although he was a great pack , as you say Cazz , his specialty was the palm off . The great Bobby Skilton raved about roving to Big Nick in those interstate matches for the silver service he got from Big Nick . Same as Crosswell , Big Nick instructed Bobby where to stand and without fail Nick plonked it on Bobby's chest .............. speaking of Bobby Skilton never forget his name when discussing the greatest players of all time . Bobby was right up there with the greatest .




Robert Walls and Mark Maclure were much the same - although both very capable to take pack marks they generally played the percentage game of knocking or palming the ball out of packs - to the advantage of our small forwards - in fact our 79, 81 and 82 flags were really one without the benefit of star key forwards.


Ross Ditchburn did ok as a traditional FF, but granted he didn't have much impact in the GF, although it had a big impact on him.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:18 pm 
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the Carroll kick that he slightly pulled to find Durdin for a speccy in Q1 was a highlight. He's a beauty Carroll, got a touch of class about him

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:01 pm 
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the Carroll kick that he slightly pulled to find Durdin for a speccy in Q1 was a highlight. He's a beauty Carroll, got a touch of class about him


Amazing. My boy Carroll. I’ve adopted him.

What an amazing peg.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:06 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
One of the things I struggle with is key big men constantly trying to mark the ball in packs.

As a very young lad I remember watching John Nicholls play at the massive height of 6' 2". Sure he could take a mark but his forte was as a tap ruckman. When he rested up forward, he would often direct the incoming high ball into the arms of the Mosquito Fleet, like it was a centre square bounce.

I think (?) it was 'Tiger' Crosswell who wrote that he came on to play one of his first games and ran to the FP. Big Nick was there at FF and Nick said, 'Stand over there son and the next time a high ball comes in I will Tap it to you." Nekminit - Kick, Tap, Goal to Tiger.

Back me up here Mick :donk: :donk:

Young is not a great pack mark, so why doesn't he work on the Tapping side of his game? He can get higher extension with a one-arm outstretched tap than a two-arm attempted mark. In an inside 50 marking contest, he should play the percentages and direct the ball more, mostly over the back to run onto. That Kaos ball worked well for the Tigers.

We have 55 inside 50 entries and basically bugger all contested pack marks. Play the percentages and let the small forwards Eat.

If the ball is kicked to 30 out and punched forward to 40 out, then the defence has more open space to work in. If it tapped further over the back to 20 out, the defence is under far more pressure to clear the zone.

Call me old school. I miss Big Nick and Tiger. :cry: :cry:

Regards Cazzesman


100 % back you up Cazz . With the risk of boring everyone to tears again I'll say it again , there was and only ever be one " Big Nick ". Yes , Big Nick although he was a great pack , as you say Cazz , his specialty was the palm off . The great Bobby Skilton raved about roving to Big Nick in those interstate matches for the silver service he got from Big Nick . Same as Crosswell , Big Nick instructed Bobby where to stand and without fail Nick plonked it on Bobby's chest .............. speaking of Bobby Skilton never forget his name when discussing the greatest players of all time . Bobby was right up there with the greatest .


Big Nick is the best Carlton player I have seen.
He made players walk taller and worked off him

Huge man. Huge presence. Huge 6 footer with tree trunks for legs

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 10:25 am 
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CK95 wrote:
the Carroll kick that he slightly pulled to find Durdin for a speccy in Q1 was a highlight. He's a beauty Carroll, got a touch of class about him


We’ve unearthed another one. Hopefully he and Cowan play many games together….. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:39 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
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the Carroll kick that he slightly pulled to find Durdin for a speccy in Q1 was a highlight. He's a beauty Carroll, got a touch of class about him


We’ve unearthed another one. Hopefully he and Cowan play many games together….. :thumbsup:


They will….this year

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:51 pm 
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North Melbourne v Carlton

10 George Hewett CARL
7 Adam Cerra CARL
5 Charlie Curnow CARL
4 Tom De Koning CARL
2 Jesse Motlop CARL
2 Zac Williams CARL

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:26 pm 
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5 Hewett
4 Cerra
3 TDK
2 Motlop
1 Curnow

5 Hewett
4 Curnow
3 Cerra
2 Williams
1 TDK

Tough one this week :D


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:18 pm 
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Question: Curtis' tackle, where he used his legs to trip Weitering.... that's legal?

Considering if he used his arms around the legs its a free kick, why is that allowed?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:22 pm 
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Question: Curtis' tackle, where he used his legs to trip Weitering.... that's legal?

Considering if he used his arms around the legs its a free kick, why is that allowed?


Yes , it was a trip alright .

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:43 pm 
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absolute trip and very dangerous to boot.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:22 pm 
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I cannot understand how we all see it and voice it, yet the MRO say 'nothing to see here'. Christian is just a joke.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:26 pm 
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I cannot understand how we all see it and voice it, yet the MRO say 'nothing to see here'. Christian is just a joke.
Agreed.

It was a legit takedown. You'd get points for it in a Jiu Jitsu or Judo competition. :P

How does he not get at least a week for it?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 9:30 am 
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CK95 wrote:
the Carroll kick that he slightly pulled to find Durdin for a speccy in Q1 was a highlight. He's a beauty Carroll, got a touch of class about him



He`s a great kick and looks like he has good footy IQ. Composed with the ball and considers his options.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:36 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
5 Hewett
4 Cerra
3 TDK
2 Motlop
1 Curnow

5 Hewett
4 Curnow
3 Cerra
2 Williams
1 TDK

Tough one this week :D


Thanks for your effort to present this analysis.
I start then give up, nearly every time.

Williams and Motlop votes surprised me.
Williams was good in first half, and Motlop featured in the last quarter.
Overall I thought both had good games, but didnt have them anywhere near my best 5 on the day.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:39 am 
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Still got the blues wrote:
CK95 wrote:
the Carroll kick that he slightly pulled to find Durdin for a speccy in Q1 was a highlight. He's a beauty Carroll, got a touch of class about him



He`s a great kick and looks like he has good footy IQ. Composed with the ball and considers his options.



That IQ of carrolls is inate. His ability to show composure is cosistent. A very good footballer.

You can practise drills all summer, reflecting team rules, but this kid is on the move to give himself space and time to pick off targets. Its poetry in motion.

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