I disagree. Wet, slippery conditions suit the faster, more skilful teams IMHO. We were good enough to beat Hawthorn. We just need Harry and Charlie to hit some form and we'll match them

I recall you posting this prior to the Hawks game. Players with skills stand out.

Also, all that contested footy we won had nothing to do with wet or dry conditions. We won the nut fair and square.

Either way … the season will play out for us all to see.

I hope on top of hope you and Bondi are right and I am wrong. I’ll have no problem in the world admitting I was completely wrong should we go top 4 …

I think we’ll finish outside the 8. fwiw…

The wet ground slows down play. You’re not as clean. You take an extra touch here and there … all of that allowed us time to pressure and close them down

A dry track? We’re not laying a hand on them as they exit stoppage or after we turn it over in the middle

We are far from our best and the round 1 loss hurt many but I tell you IF the UMPIRES were fairer - we could have WON this game.

But we win the ball.

They got away 4-5 times on the outside in the game. We didn't allow more because of our contested DNA ability over theirs.

Its debatable.

Fkn oath

Simple as that.

Forget weather, bad kicking, injury and playing underdone players, we would have won if Umpires were fair, and they were not.

What "Plan B" would you like to see?
You can't just turn the board upside down after you've completed a pre-season on how you want to play the game. I saw 5 or 6 major changes to our structure/strategies Thursday night from the previous week. I'm not sure what more people want.
We came up against a team who many are tipping to play in the grand final. Despite being on the wrong end of 2 goal reviews, a goal overturned from a free kick that wouldn't be paid 19 times out of 20 and not receiving a free kick/50 m penalty that the AFL conceded we should have received, we were in the game until the end.
All this with Charlie at about 25%, Walsh at about 50% and our other Coleman medallist not playing. Not to mention our pick 3 (who is going to be a gun) and the runner up of our last 2 best and fairest counts.

It's confusing. We've got 50% of posters saying Voss can't coach. Yet he got this team into a prelim in 2023 and an elimination final last year with clearly the worst injury list in the AFL. We must have a bloody fantastic list if our coach is holding us back and we've still won 2 of our last 4 finals.
But no, 40% of posters are saying the list is no good and Austin should be sacked. Bloody hell, Voss must be a master coach to have got a shit list to consecutive finals series. Which is it?

I'd suggest it could be somewhere in the remaining 10%. It's 2 games of footy. We have lost 2 games of a 23 round season. Last year the Lions lost 5 of the 7 and everyone wanted the coach sacked. How did that turn out?
If we miss the finals, by all means blow up the club but until then, back the club in and have faith. Against the Tigers our conversion and disposal was poor but slippery conditions in both games suited outside, front running teams.

I heard Scott Pendlebury interviewed on Saturday. The most experienced player in the game. He said in Collingwood's first game, they were so wound up the players lost their heads and everyone tried to do it all individually. It's exactly how it looked with us.

I thought our effort and strategies were good on Thursday night with the personnel available. Better finishing in front of goal and we could have easily won both games. Let's calm the farm and see where we are at later in the season. I still have faith that with a reasonable run with injury, we'll be playing finals. Once you're there, history shows anyone can win if things go your way.

When the expectations are gone and the season and top 4 finish is done and dusted with nothing to play for except maybe a bottom 8 finish.
This team will be unstoppable.
If they do make the 8 and happen to win the 1st final expectations will rise again and we will go back to dishing up shit

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Appreciate the detailed response Blue Vain. Suffice to say that I really do hope we meet your expectations.

There doesn't seem to be any resiliance with this club - it seems to drop its collective bundle in "line in the sand" moments.

Back in 2012 when we were "flag favourites" and flying we were overun and smashed by the drug fuelled Essendon** side in Round 4 and really never recovered.

Sitting pretty in 2024 - second on the ladder - we fold like a cheap tent agains GWS and meekly give our season away.

No backbone - until we can consistently produce and become a resiliant ruthless side where teams know they will more than just have to turn up to beat us we are going no where.

Geelong may not have won a flag between 2011 and 2022 - but every side in the AFL knew that they had to be on their best for four quarters if they were ever a chance to beat them - not just walk up behind them and say "boo" like any other side in the AFL know that they can do to us.

Syd we have been crap ever since you & I met up at qtr time of the GWS game. The universe got completely misaligned in that moment

Syd we have been crap ever since you & I met up at qtr time of the GWS game. The universe got completely misaligned in that moment

Thinking about it we have been pretty crap since I met up with Moshe and Agro at the SCG a long time ago.

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