The problem with Young is he is not consistent enough, but he is all we have to play a role like that.
As I said we need another ruck/forward or ruck/defender, something Austin should be working on now.
Then we can cut Young and Pitto from the list.

Weiters should never be in the ruck, ever.

Ever

Protect those quads.

He's powerful enough to move rucks after you see Cripps doing it.

He holds a whole backline. That's plenty.

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My view is he has shown to play well after we lost Jones, with or without Weitering there.
He was 5th choice ruck then. Injury forced our hand playing him in the backline, and it worked. Godsend.
His luck ran out in 2023/2024. He turns 26 this year.

He has been consistent this preseason.
Performed ruck, forward and back roles without trying to do too much.
He's changed. He's moving the ball quicker, and taken some angry pills.

Some people want Moir and Binns back to fill in spots they are 2nd, 3rd in 4th in line.
Young fills roles for us around the ground, where we have gaps.

Young just needs an injection of anger before running out. Vossy!!! That's your area.

His turn will come.

I'm not desperate to see it, but prefer to see it sooner in order to give TDK a couple chop outs during each quarter.
TDK can either go to bench or mix it up in the forward line with Harry and Charlie at times. Sometimes just TDK and one of them.

If we needed to get SOS in the forward line, like we did in the last quarter, I'm sure Young could fill SOS spot ta CHB or FB for a quarter, and do a job if he had to. I don't think he's inept with everything he does. His fear of hurting someone (or so it seems) is his ineptness. He's a good kick and handball.

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Agree. I feel his been a scapegoat.

Can only give him a shot and see if he can deliver in the real season.
Pre-season means nothing to me after last weeks effort.

That's all we can do for him and Binns, and Moir, and Lord, and... Lucas Ben....

We should try them, especially when our hand is forced; and it is with Young imho.

Ruck is an important area in my head.
A few years ago, the go in the merrygoround was that Grigg is a great ruck and "Rucks" aren't important.
Back then, Nankervis was their ruck and nowhere near as good as he is now, as captain.

Its the whole of moving parts that counts.
There is no perfect list. You just have to work with what you've got.

Our Epitah after the SOS era will read (Win 17th or not)
This spine was SOS' legacy:

Weitering 2016
Silvagni 2016
TDK 2017
McKay 2016
Curnow 2016

With Cripps in the middle to make things happen.

Well

They need help. They need support. They need role players around them.

We have got them. Use them. Fill the gaps. Oil the machine. Turn it on. Focus. Flag.

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You can't deny your optimism.
Personally I'd need to see some change to the same style of football we have been playing to be on your page.
Until then, I'll be a sceptic.

TDK 97 ruck contests
Young 7 ruck contests
TDK jumped over Meek and looked amazing.

Meek had more HO to advantage.
Meek stopped TDK jumping over him at centre bounces.

Need to give TDK more of a chop out than that imo.

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Young just needs more time - I’m sure he’ll be fine.

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Youth is wasted on the Young.

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I'm not blaming the player as he busted his arse but 8 mins on the bench in the last and without any real plan it was all she wrote

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Can someone explain to me why clubs don't do interchange when play is on the opposite wing? I get that it leaves you a man down for 30 seconds or so, not ideal... but when a critical piece is out of the game for a long stretch, it's worth the risk?

The game is obsessed with interchange.

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Can’t send a runner out there to tell him to switch out, or come for a spell.

It’s not like there’s a phone book full of people for him to communicate with.

One. Point. Seven. Million.

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We. Haven't. Offered. That. And. Will. Not.

Is he worth $1.1M to Carlton?

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Not if he can’t manage himself through a whole game.

It’s all well and good to say that he needs more support, but he’s the #1. He’s got to call the others in for a stint so he can get forward. Start playing the game.

They can’t hold his hand.

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I don’t know that any ruck is worth 1.1… and our top heavy team, needs to start spreading the cap around to many, rather than a few.

I’d let him walk and grab the compo, trade Harry or Charlie, Walsh too. Grab some picks and reload with speed and skills.

Provided this season goes tits up, as I suspect it will

I don't think Saints are targeting TDK for the ruck position. I think he's a KPF/Ruck, playing Ryder's role, similar to the Marshall/ Ryder combo. Marshall (the rookie draft pick) is No 1 ruck.

If TDK can't resist the $1.7M, then I'd hope he would do the right thing and only leave on the condition he traded and give Carlton proper compo: 2 first rounders.

I know he's offered that much because theres no picks lost for Saints.

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Players are exhausted having to run up and down the whole ground. Half the time, our boys don't even get involved in anything, as the ball is kicked over their head.
Just running up and down the ground......