26 is Haynes, Evans was cosplaying Owies (44)

We legitimately looked like a side that hadn’t played footy before.

That’s as big an indictment on all and sundry as there is.

No coming back from here. We are [REDACTED].

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We are on our way back...

First 2 rounds often define where we are mentally in our approach for the season. When we've stunk up the first 2 rounds the rest of the season is generally terrible and the coach gets sacked. That 2nd half best be an early season fitness issue otherwise we are heading down that path again. Only seen us once turn a season around, 2023, so don't have huge confidence. Like late last year, one brilliant qtr and 3 qtrs of rubbish. Seen some amazing things happen in round 1 over the years that don't define a season, so let's hope the 41 pt lead is us and we ran out of juice but not holding my breath.

I've got no issue with Austin. They can only bring talent to the club and they have shown they can play in fits and starts. Once the talent is delivered then it's down to the coaching staff. There's the issue.

Voss needs to make a massive statement.

Even when he could hardly move anymore, Voss would have died on the field rather than play like that.
He needs to drop a bunch of players who didn’t play with the heart of a lion and replace them with those who will, even if they are not as skilled.
I know, we can’t actually drop all 20 of those players so I would start with the more experienced players and work backwards.
Seriously, I would drop at least 5 players: there were a few who were not only soft, but also fumbly, and also had the wrong footwear on. Oh, and anyone who bombed the ball into the forward line!! There was a passage in the first quarter where about 4 Carlton players just slipped for no clear reason!

Out: Haynes, Evans, McGovern, Motlop, Docherty.

Finally, I’m much less concerned about the recruiting than I am about the culture at the club (from the top down), the assistant coaches (yes the coach too but I’m pretty sure Voss is not instructing them to bomb it long and blind).
How did we not turn over a couple of our assistants after last season???

I am very glad we didn’t win in the end. I feel like this is irretrievable but if we can possibly turn it around, maybe - just maybe - this will hurt enough to drive some lasting change. (But I doubt it.)

I know it’s a v long season and no team last year was able to maintain good form all year. But this was truly awful!!

Voss has one job, have the team prepared. If this is what he considers to be prepared then his big statement needs to be ‘I’m sorry. Here’s your money back, I don’t know what I’m doing.’

If anything I'm feeling worse about it this morning

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

My work here is done. I have made Keogh feel good about himself. Well done you.

Regards Cazzesman

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i am really beginning to hate our club. they only ever let us down. 25 years and counting of disappointment, pea-heartedness, piss poor coaching, even worse drafting and development.

did voss issue a public apology in the presser? i turned it all off and went for a walk.

When you add the st kilda game, carlton have had a shocking last few games. Gws as comparison had a pretty miserable end to the year and came out with slingshot engaged

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Normally after a loss the family group chat (we're all Carlton) is pumping. Crickets after this one.

I think what's the worst is the realisation that we've [REDACTED] up yet another rebuild and we're going to be even more [REDACTED] for a while.

Hawsk have our first round pick. Tassie is coming in. Core group is getting older. Recent drafting still has question marks (Binns, Lemmey, Wilson two of those haven't even played a senior game). Sold half the farm for Jagga and he's not even going to play this year (obv not anyone's fault).

Trent Masenhelder
@tmase04
Carlton has won two of its past 10 games - against North Melbourne (the Blues trailed for much of the game) and West Coast.

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In all the years of following this team I have never felt like this its horrible.

I shouldn't because I could see it coming

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And the only win before those was against Richmond!

Cazzeman if last years final didn’t convince you we still had big problems then last night surely confirmed it
I got a bit personal so apologies
We are in a lot of trouble
I always say you give a coach 3 years
Voss clearly can’t coach and the need to get a senior assistant like a Roos has not been addressed
We went with the big name over Kingsley
Our recruiting has deteriorated yet again
Recruiting Haynes over Nathan Cooper who mysteriously was ignored by all 18 clubs typifies the recruitment culture of Carlton over the last 25 years
Maxwell and Blight are still young and plucked from the WAFL for virtually nothing
It’s the Alex Fasolo syndrome over again
He so desperately need big bod support for Weitering and we recruit a 32 year old interceptor
Then we recruit Francis and Fantasia from Port
A coincidence that Voss was at Port
No
A bit like SOS s obsession with recruiting players from Xavier
Why was Francis favored over Moir last night
Voss said at the presser last night that players need to earn their spot based on form
Tell that to Jaxon Binns
It’s the same old story
Personally I would bring Wilson Lemmey Binns and Moir in to replace McGovern Francis Motlop and Williams
Make a statement
He won’t and I reckon we will play better against a better opposition next week
But as I said before blind optimism is not as good as reality
We simply are not good enough
That was clearly evident last year and the issues that were obvious haven’t been addressed properly over the summer
This should be our time
The club needs to start again

Yep. We start again.

It all starts again, next week.

Its a long season. We have set our goals, and we need to bring our best to achieve them.

Wake up call like 1995?

We had so many more forward entries, just wasted.
What does that tell you? We got it into the danger zone.
What did our forwards do? Where were the smalls as conditions got slippery?

Something worked, and something else didnt.
We need to weed out pretenders in the forwardline.

Motlop is not quick enough despite his improvement in his weakness over summer: speed
Evans wasn't dangerous at all.
Fog moved well, but not dangerous
Williams started like a house on fire only to win himself 3 disposals in 2nd half
Cottrell, same as Williams, as Motlop, as Evans.

Kemp missing in front of goal...25m out. He does that on a weekly basis.
Harry in the ruck.

WE had no targets, and the forwardline was congested all game.
Where's the legs, the movement, the options, the leads?

Forwardline was our biggest problem.
Ruck chop out was the other.
Cripps tapping to Cripps cant work when oppo have an extra at the stoppage.

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Embarrassingly predictable, predictably embarrassing.

Cottrell, Williams, Motlop, Kemp, Fogarty, Evans.
When was the last time we fielded a worse looking forward line?
Half are not even forwards. Moir was recruited as a forward. Play him.
If Cottrell has been passed by a first season recruit, drop him.
You can't argue like for like than play so many guys out of position.

How many "wake up calls" have we had though?