If in doubt, check it out

https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs/carlton

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i used to wonder how many were failed draft picks, and how many were us, with kids who we failed to develop.

watching dow, and setterfield and all the other mids fail to make any impact or be consistent at other clubs, has me leaning towards our drafting was inept.

drewgirl said it best. we go after a certain profile of player - squeaky clean, "good guys", players who speak and carry themselves well.

rather than getting the best possible footy player - and having faith that our club culture will bring it all together.

maybe under voss, we can start bringing in a few ratbags and have faith voss will keep them engaged and in line to the club values of winning???

I think it's a bit 50/50 though - IIRC Setterfield was tipped as a potential bid at #1 that year at one point, and the likes of Dow and SPS were not seen as outrageous picks at the time.

Shuffling them off to St Kilda or * after we Carlton them up for a few years doesn't show that they were always doomed to be solid at best. We need to stop developing AFL standard players into VFL standard players.

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Cer 'ch 'n alluog Blues

I agree that our failings are mostly our own doing and it doesn’t help to whinge about the advantages others seem to have.
Brisbane is a great example for us: most people have them 1-3yrs ahead of schedule in their rebuild.
Only a few weeks ago, many thought they had missed their window. Now, suddenly, they are favourites for next year!

We should always maintain a healthy dose of criticism for our team but we also need to have some patience.

Melbourne, too, supposedly wasted their best years pre-2021 when they even missed out on finals!

Whilst completely valid to be very critical of our year, our window is very far from closed.


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If we can turn Owies and Kennedy into dynamic types, not champions just players on the same level but with the skill set we’re missing, draft well and fix the flowering game plan then we’re half was there.

Can we trade two Camporeales for one Ashcroft?


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Interesting the impact of father-son selections and academy picks. Geelong benefitted, Collingwood benefitted last year and certainly Brisbane have. Who have we had?
We need to do better in the bedroom and do we have an acedemy?

I don't buy that development is the issue with players failing to make the grade.

I can see the strength of Dow, but he had to overcome his weakness for his strengths to stand out. Ditto SPS. Ditto Stocker. Ditto LOB.

Why does LDU play well in the bottom team who loses games by 100 points? Plenty of kids who do well in bottom sides without the best facilities and development coaches.

Players who are 100% committed to improving and are professional in the way they go about their development and preparation will always prosper and be good footballers.

How many times have you heard the saying: what a waste of talent? It happens. Some have got it, some aint, but you need more than talent. Things like resilience are difficult to measure.

And as for Setterfield, he never lived up to the hype prior to carlton, nor post Carlton. He was bigger than most of the mids in TAC and stood out for that. A great recruiter would factor that when valuing players.

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Austin was a successful List Manager at Western Bulldogs, so he knows that list intimately (not like that ).
Bulldogs have a plethora of KPD's and KPF's.

Jones came to us as a KPF, but found his niche as aKPD.
That's one place where Austin could be looking for KPD's, and they don't necessarily have to currently be a KPD.

LOBB comes to mind

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We haven’t had the incentive to run a full-noise academy. Now that has changed, we’ve got some VERY promising prospects in there.

As for the boudoir… two Hoggs, two Hickmotts, three Silvagnis, a Whitnall, at least one Dean who might still be in the mix… then there’s Cody Walker who will cost an arm & a leg under the new rules. Thankfully we have a couple years to load up there. I think there’s a Scotland in there as well.

Skinny Lappin’s daughter, Sunny, is in the Suns Academy. She might be our best chance at landing a small forward…

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

From what I understand, Austin has spoken to the management of the following, and interviewed a few of them too:

Haines
Membrey 188cm
Laverde 193cm
Wicks
Konstanty
Houston

I would prefer someone a bit taller than any of the abovementioned to replace Young.

Can't see Austin from targeting both Laverde and Haines.

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Imagine if we could somehow jag Konstanty and Noble.

You'd be Istanbullish about 2025...

Ill get my coat.

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Congratulations CK95

Nah you can stay

That's interesting though... I thought Haines was already in the bag as a cheapie.

Papley is the rumour. Wanting to come back to VIC.

Also looking like we will get membrey.

Houston approached us and we have other things to look at as a priority 1st.

Apparently as per those in the know at Bigfooty.

Some in the know, and some just plain made up nonsense.

Just not sure which is which for a few weeks...

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Congratulations CK95

The Membrey one is definetely one that posts accurately.
The Papley one - Not sure yet.

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When planning to trade for a high end player, this is when 2 first rounders are needed. A midfielder who wins games for you.



https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/simon-black-reveals-how-chris-fagan-won-him-over-in-brisbane-lions-job-interview/news-story/f951b88e0b92ff04da7867e2d3604ae4

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Papley...well well. Great mate of Nic Newman. 29 yo next year.

Someone must know.

Where there's rumours ... there's possibilities

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