B: PLAYER YOUNG Newman

HB: Saad Weitering O. Hollands

C: Acres Cripps Walsh

R: TDK Hewett Cerra

HF: E.Hollands McKay PLAYER

F: SILVAGNI Curnow PLAYER

I: Owies Cincotta Cowan PLAYER PLAYER

We have possibly 2 picks before Ben Camporeale: 11 and 31
We have 3 x 4th round picks to use on Campo boys
We may get picks from Carroll Martin Motlop and Owies, but not enough for draft quality.
We have already replaced Russell for Rob Innes

PLAYERS we need to find improvement in red

1. Small Forward with elite pace (can't rely on Durdin's shoulder at this stage)
2. 3rd tall intercept ... might be Haynes in the short term. If not find a KPD to go with Young and let Weitering play the Petty role.
3. HF to replace Martin. Maybe Moir if he can improve his engine. Need to be a goal kicker, not a defender, unless its Cincotta on Zorko
4. Midfielder with speed (can that be Wilson if we can't Trade one in?)

We can improve on the following positions but have too many other holes to fill mentioned above.

5. Silvagni is the best available Fwd-Ruck. Someone taller would be better in the ruck.
6. Young is the best available KPD (see notes on 3rd tall defender)

Developing players: Moir Lord Binns Duffy Camporeale Camporeale Wilson O'Keefe Lemmey

There must be some gems in the rough in the SAFL WAFL VFL we can find with later picks.
I want an MSD pick to be made available.

Depth

Gov is contracted and back up
Williams is contracted and back up
Kemp is back up and should be developed as a mid
Boyd I thought Boyd was a lock, but his last 2 games befre Hawks were not good enough for selection.
Pittonet's 2024 form nowhere near 2023 form and remains as a back up for TDK whilst we have SOS, and TDK is our No 1 ruck.
Docherty is contracted and plays a supportive role filling holes (because we wont fill all needs from Trade/Draft and injuries will happen).
Kennedy see Doc, and is back up for Hewett's role.
Fogarty see Doc.

In a nutshell

AFL Listed

Cuningham - pick 11 (midfielder with speed)
Marchbank - pick 31 (best small forward or KPD)
Martin Trade - Camporeale (midfielder)
Owies Trade -Camporeale (HB)
Carroll Trade- Boyd promotion

How else can we get more picks? ...some gems in the rough?

Rookie Listed

S.Durdin- KPD
Boyd- Lord
Mirkov- Ruck

Category B

Akueii - keep or improve on
Duffy - new
Monahan - existing

Can see why Owies and Carroll may be finding new homes.
All other players contracted with high salaries other than Durdin and Fogarty

Lets hope one or two of our developing players step up in 2024: Moir Lord Wilson Binns?

Spooky Rod Galt? Crusader? BV? You're good with this stuff.
Can we package picks to go higher?
Trade next years picks?

Next year is the last of "Normal trading" before Tassie concessions start in 2026.

These next 2 Drafts are critical for our future.

Owies might bring a 4th round pick, but I suspect he accepts whatever offer comes across the table.

Hey BB

Why wouldn’t we take a leaf from DB and put Charlie to CHB

And I would have Kemp somewhere - perhaps on the bench of forward in the Martin role.

Would also strongly consider Liam McMahon for a rookie position - delist Lemmey

Keep Owies.
He's the only half decent small forward Carlton has.

Delist/VFL level or trade Motlop, Durdin and Fantasia.

If you're delisting Martin AFL , Matt Carroll, Rookie Sam Durdin Rookie, Marchbank AFL and Cunningham AFL surely that leaves at least one spot for Owies.

You have delisted only 3 AFL listed places. I think we require more than that.

1. pick 11 kid
2. pick 31 kid/ trade
3. Camporeale
4. Camporeale
5. FA, DFA, WAFL SAFL VFL



Need more than 4 AFL delistings

I’d also rather Smith given there looks like there’ll be argy bargy between the Dogs and WB.

Yes I'm not sure that pick #11 for Houston is good value considering he turns 28 next year and isn't the type of player we really need at the moment. A linebreaking midfielder and/or a proven goalkicking small/medium forward should be our priority.

Yes I'm not sure that pick #11 for Houston is good value considering he turns 28 next year and isn't the type of player we really need at the moment. A linebreaking midfielder and/or a proven goalkicking small/medium forward should be our priority.

B: PLAYER YOUNG Newman

HB: Saad Weitering O. Hollands

C: Acres Cripps Walsh

R: TDK Hewett Cerra

HF: E.Hollands McKay PLAYER

F: SILVAGNI Curnow PLAYER

I: Owies Cincotta Cowan PLAYER PLAYER

We have possibly 2 picks before Ben Camporeale: 11 and 31
We have 3 x 4th round picks to use on Campo boys
We may get picks from Carroll Martin Motlop and Owies, but not enough for draft quality.
We have already replaced Russell for Rob Innes

PLAYERS we need to find improvement in red

1. Small Forward with elite pace (can't rely on Durdin's shoulder at this stage)
2. 3rd tall intercept ... might be Haynes in the short term. If not find a KPD to go with Young and let Weitering play the Petty role.
3. HF to replace Martin. Maybe Moir if he can improve his engine. Need to be a goal kicker, not a defender, unless its Cincotta on Zorko
4. Midfielder with speed (can that be Wilson if we can't Trade one in?)

We can improve on the following positions but have too many other holes to fill mentioned above.

5. Silvagni is the best available Fwd-Ruck. Someone taller would be better in the ruck.
6. Young is the best available KPD (see notes on 3rd tall defender)

Developing players: Moir Lord Binns Duffy Camporeale Camporeale Wilson O'Keefe Lemmey

There must be some gems in the rough in the SAFL WAFL VFL we can find with later picks.
I want an MSD pick to be made available.

Depth

Gov is contracted and back up
Williams is contracted and back up
Kemp is back up and should be developed as a mid
Boyd I thought Boyd was a lock, but his last 2 games befre Hawks were not good enough for selection.
Pittonet's 2024 form nowhere near 2023 form and remains as a back up for TDK whilst we have SOS, and TDK is our No 1 ruck.
Docherty is contracted and plays a supportive role filling holes (because we wont fill all needs from Trade/Draft and injuries will happen).
Kennedy see Doc, and is back up for Hewett's role.
Fogarty see Doc.

Keep Owies.
He's the only half decent small forward Carlton has.

Delist/VFL level or trade Motlop, Durdin and Fantasia.

If you're delisting Martin, Matt Carroll, Sam Durdin, Marchbank and Cunningham surely that leaves at least one spot for Owies.

I think we know we’ve improved when Acres, Docherty and Newman are under pressure for their spots. All have been valuable over their careers but have deficiencies that impact during the game.

I’m trying to avoid hyperbole, but I honestly think that the drover’s dog could’ve kicked the goals that Owies has.

He gets his hands on it 8-9 times a game at 70-75% TOG. Yes, he’s the floor spacer & that makes the goals look even better, but I just don’t think that’s enough.

The market is set by the buyer. Schultz, Ginnivan, Billings, Brockman… a wide variety of transactions & he’s kicked more goals than all of them. This year’s buyers are a different bunch.

As far as the match day magnet goes, we’ve got more than we need.

Motlop - specialist
Durdin - specialist
Fantasia - specialist
Fogarty - mid, now fwd/mid
Moir - medium specialist
Williams - occasional medium specialist
Monahan - developing as a medium specialist

Weigh them up against the athletes on the half forward line:

Cincotta - tagger
E. Hollands - half forward
Cottrell - half forward/wing
Binns - wing/half forward

Or the extra tall…

I’ll take my chances with a lowball offer & let his management find a deal.

So true Des . When your older players are being pushed out by young up and comers you know you are heading north .......................... having said that I would be go grab the Dogs Jack McCrae . He wants out . Its our Tom Mitchell moment . Considered old slow and past it Mitchell virtually delivered the Pies a flag last year . McCrae is a superb footballer . He would provide that classy ball use that we desperately need .