Mate , the ruckman as sub was a light hearted comment . Of course footy aint a laughing matter at the minute . Serious question , who do you think we should target in the off season ?

Oliver Caffrey
@ollycaffrey
An expensive night at the Gabba for Carlton defender Nic Newman. Fined $6250 (can be downgraded to $3750) for striking and another $5000 ($3125 with a guilty plea) for engaging in a melee

I watched the game at Ikon Park along with the other supporters.
At least we got to share the misery together and felt each others pain.

At least he didn't get suspended.

Mate , the ruckman as sub was a light hearted comment . Of course footy aint a laughing matter at the minute . Serious question , who do you think we should target in the off season ?

We were always up against it. Some of the selection decisions were puzzling especially Cincotta out and TDK as sub, but the preference for returning senior players over raw kids is understandable whether you agree with it or not. My beef was more with the selection of an obviously hindered Durdin and out of touch Motlop, and to an extent Fantasia although I get the attraction of his experience. So as an exercise in evaluating the extent to which MC decisions harmed our chances, given the injury list reality, I have looked at the team selected and looking at who didn't have a great game and who could have replaced them. For the purposes of the exercise simply rating the players as a pass at 50 fantasy points leaves these players short of the mark:
Durdin
Kennedy
Kemp
Williams
Cowan
Fantasia

Of those I would only have had Durdin and Fantasia out (and others who passed the 50 point mark), but for this exercise who could have replaced these players to better effect?

The 5 omissions Binns (3 games) Lord (2) Moir (2) Carroll Cincotta I suppose are in the mix and Martin was a "test" in the injury list so he might have been an option (I don't know) NO ONE else with senior experience was available. I think general consensus is omitting Cincotta was a mistake but the others are not clear upgrades or even capable of fulfilling the same roles.

Then there is the decision to play an extra defender - which I disagreed with but can understand the idea - and more significantly to allow them to have Zorko as their spare which was simply disasterous. Cincotta in would have given us a tagger for him, or another, Lord a mid with defensive intent, Moir and/or Martin some X-factor up front, Binns and Carroll options in the mids - but ultimately I can't see any combination making the difference.

Unfortunately, that is just panic. Harry as a trade was squashed long ago. Don't trade any AA forward for a mid. Remember Kennedy and Judd. Walsh is never going to be traded in a million years. Obviously injured this year but he is a superstar of the sport. No amount of picks is replacing him. He's a budding Hall of Famer. We were 2nd 7 weeks out, 6pts clear, so we were going well. Year was ruined with injury and the idiots on the MC picking injured, underdone half it players out of form. Don't be trading the baby out with the bathwater.

I hate the fact that I don't care

I expected to get flogged, and we did.

I take nothing from the "fightback".

Brisbane had won that game at half time and they knew it. They checked out. I expected a performance that was the result of dumb selections and it's what we got.

Reasonable view, although you’re being completely unfair on Kennedy and Motlop was short of the mark

an A+ mid with harry as the trade bait.

trac is available - although he's 28 and H is 26, so imo they'd have to give something back to us.
Butters wants to come home to melbourne.
Bailey smith was my wishlist, but his heart is on geelong, away from the bright lights of melbourne and closer to the ocean.

I'd go thru GWS mids from melbourne and see if they want to come home. same with lions and freo.


i'm on the fence about young. his best is good enough, but he's so inconsistent i'm not sure i trust him. so, we could need another tall defender.

and an electric small forward. maybe trade up and get the best small in the draft. looking at what the wizard has done for the hawks - immediate impact.

draft the campo twins and keep developing lord.

i'd listen to offers for walsh, cerra, harry and even pittonet. not sure what kind of currency they'd have. we'll need to give something, to get something good. i'm not emotional or invested in any of our players tbh ... i just want to win flags by whatever means necessary.