I hope next year we can bring some enjoyment back to watching football.

This year hasn't been enjoyable at all.

The club and supporters have approached most games with a "what if we lose" mentality

I want a "let's go out and win"

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Looking at 2025 you have to ask where is the improvement coming from to win another 4 or 5 games and finish top 4.

The way I look at it these players will not get better you have seen what they offer and it is as good as it gets
Charlie Harry Owies Cripps Walsh Hewett Kennedy Fantasia Acres Newman Pitto Saad Weiters Gov JSOS Docherty Cotrell Fogarty Boyd Cunningham Marchbank Young Williams Martin and at 27 years old probably Cincotta.

So where is the improvement coming from apart from a free run of injuries.

TDK was pretty bloody good this year can he improve to Adam Goodes level
Cerra needs to discover 2023 form
Can Cowan step up

Can it be the Holland boys
Durdin Motlop can't see it

So then we get to the reserves
Binns maybe
Lord yes
Moir huge question marks same applies to Wilson Carroll the other Carroll Monohan Okeefe Mirkov Lemmey Akuei

There is not a lot there that is going to make a difference.

We need to trade . We need to do what all other clubs do when they are in the window and bring in 2 or 3 established players to replace Martin Marchbank Cunningham S Durdin

If we don't we are in the wilderness for another 10 to 15 years

I don't have faith in Austin or the club being able to do it

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

trade harry for a blue chip mid.

More wokeness?

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Turkish Proverb

…under 25.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

I think each round we need at least 1 or 2 kids playing. Then you get to the back end & you're not in this position where the only games they've played are west coast & St Kilda & you play doc & cerra instead.

I'm looking forward to seeing what the year holds for O'Keefe. Liked some signs I've seen in the 2s.

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I think we lost 4 games by 6pts or less this year. If we'd won only 2 of them (Adl and StK, we should have won both) we'd have been 4th, all 4 and we'd be 2nd.

We did well last year and at the start of this year in close games. But next year we need to go back to winning those games because they can be the difference come ladder position end of season and it really cost us this year being such a tight season. Me too.
I can only think of a few times I really enjoyed watching us this year. By July I had that feeling of dread.

Not sure about Jack. Yeah, he's an honest toiler but he's slow and not a good kick, and now he's a recovering ACL. Would you be so keen if he wasn't a Silvagni? I can sympathise if so, but if we're calling for ruthlessness then that can't be a consideration.

Honestly I would not be in a hurry to re-sign anyone over 24 except TDK. I reckon our window is shut already but in reality the club is going to believe we have another year. If we finish top two or make the grannie in 2025 then by all means sign them up for a last-last go in 26, if not then raze it to the ground and get in as much young speed and footskills as you can before Tassie flowers us up the bum.

Can anyone recall what year Richmond went to Adelaide in the finals and got blown away in a quarter? Cotchin kicked against the wind.

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I think it’s more than that. We did go the full rebuild so that was not conservative. I just don’t think we are good enough as a club.

We fluffed a majority of our early draft picks. Particularly around building a deep and balanced midfield.

We topped up our list with the wrong players. Particularly those who were injury prone.

We aren’t ruthless with list management. How is Marchbank still on the list? We recruit Williams for midfield duties and overpaid for a player who hasn’t made much impact. He still has 2 years on his contract.

The continual long kicks to a contest. Not sure what Voss and his coaching staff are trying to achieve with our game style. No discernible system and overlap run both defensively and offensively.

We pay too much attention to sentiment eg Betts returning, Doch playing last night etc

I could go on but we are back to being a laughing stock. My expectations have plummeted again. Although, I could see the writing on the wall an while ago.

yeah i would. he's unconditional and team first, he's blue collar and loves this team. he goes hard, he's the first guy to fly the flag for another and he's the kind of bloke you'd love to play alongside. and those elements are really lacking in the 22 that ran out last night.

JSOS is a versatile player with footy smarts. We lacked both this year.

2014....why?

Maybe the wind has changed direction???

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

So….

I need to do this…!

Boyd..Jacob…Cowan…
Saad…McGovern…Newman…
Ollie…Cripps…Acres…
Fogarty…Harry…Elijah…
Owies…Charlie…Moir…

TDK…Walsh…Hewitt…

Binns…Lord…Cincotta…Kemp….Kennedy/Silvagni…



Out of last night….
Young…Doc…Fantasia…Williams…Motlop…Pitto…Durdin…Cerra…!


kindest regards tommi






Meh…i just looked over the side i picked and
still hate it…!




SO angry and even more angry…!

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yeah tommi, i feel you mate.

today is almost like grieving something or someone.

Leigh Matthews says we're too one paced in the midfield, and we were closer to the premiership window last season, than this.




it's true. if there's a team stat for bounces taken. we would be stone dead last and daylight to 2nd last.

no new news here. but hopefully leigh can talk to voss and get in his ears and that filters thru the draft/ trade room. those two still talk regularly, so i live in hope.


https://www.3aw.com.au/one-paced-afl-great-exposes-carltons-big-problem/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFKB9NleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHVSYhnTZQqcH7ROEUtqTBc9-FKHVZZ0HXvWKK4trz31POYOcZUMDlPgltw_aem_oNLzZUJJl47CGHAOLho0mA

My memory was after that there was pressure for change, they held firm and went on to be successful. Completely different list profile to us though

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I am starting to feel the same way.
I am of an age that I have seen plenty of success but this is really hard to take.
This list probably only has a window of maybe 2-3 years and then it will be start all over again.