Durds played against Saints because there was literally nobody else. Since we're (touch wood) getting a few players back, he can rest up or maybe even go under the knife early, with our thanks for the brave effort.

Have finally watched the Jones and Owies tackles. Wow oh wow. Like Ianh, I'm a lawyer too, but you don't have to be one to see one is medium impact (Jones) and one is low impact (Owies) . Jones slings a player recklessly to the ground. Reckless usually means that there is a substantial risk that what you have done will end in tears (in layman's terms) or you are unconcerned about the consequences, even though there will be consequences by your actions. Look at the remonstration by the players. Listen to the commentators. That combination is the gut reaction from the footy world. One week suspension every day of the week. Owies tackles from behind with momentum. Is the tribunal saying he should not have tackled at all ? Umpire awards a free, no players remonstrate, Higgins is fine and zilch from commentators. That's the gut reaction from the footy world. Must be appealed and, if that fails, off to the Supreme Court on an administrative error of law. I suppose the pub test is whether you'd like to be tackled by Liam Jones or Matt Owies. Any physicist on here want to give feedback about Newton's 3rd Law when looking at the two incidents?

From tonight's Herald Sun ..... Carlton will not challenge a one-game ban for forward Matt Owies, leaving him out of next week’s elimination final against Brisbane.

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ˆˆ that's crazy. utterly crazy

Agreed.

There's no game this weekend, it's not as if we're in a rush to get the team settled prior to travelling up for the game.

It's almost as if the club has said "fine, you win, you got us back" in hopes that they leave us the @#$%&! alone in the future.

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They would have looked at the grounds for appeal and decided there wasn't scope. You can't just appeal because you didn't like the verdict.

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Reckon that's right Bammers . Save your petrol tickets for another day .

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Would have thought it was easier to get Owies off, than some of the others we've been successful with.

Very surprised with the non-appeal; it's as if they weren't planning to select him anyway (which I highly doubt).

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

I agree that they would have been given an opinion that prospects were poor. While clearly an error in common sense, that doesn't mean an error of law. The Pricks even ticked off the charlie cameron discretionary box too.

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They even went to the extent of ruling that the medium impact wasn’t actual impact, but possible impact.

Got me [REDACTED] how we’re just going to let that one slide.

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There is something completely wrong with us not appealing. I’m not sure what it is, but something smells and I’d say the AFL is knee deep in this……..

To be honest this whole thing smells a bit ..... it's like some weird agreement was reached behind closed doors. Strange.

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Game and finals spot on the line, desperate tackle that wins the free kick. Owies should be universally praised, not @#$%&! suspended. This decision attacks the fibre of the game.

The fact Jones gets off with a fine is what fails the sniff test. How you can possibly give Owies a week and Jones a fine defies all logic. Laura Kane is an abject failure.

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Because they don't even try and hide their bias.
No one cares about an annoying small forward from the club everyone hates anyway.

I'm with you Surrey.

Something not right about this non appeal, given it looks easier to appeal than most others who have had their verdict overturned.

I keep thinking about the phone call Richard Colless received from Mike Fitzpatrick after Franklin signed with Swans instead. Nothing short of threatening and abusive. Richard still laughs at Fitzpatrick's Machiavellian approach but it was no laughing matter at the time, especially after Cola ended for Swans. This is the sort of power the AFL Commission weilds. That's why I want the commission dismantled and made to be more transparent, accountable, fair and democratic.

AFL Commission has its prints all over this non appeal.

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Great idea

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Underdone or primed?

I think the rest has done them wonders not the other way around.

Same with Cerra, Williams and Martin.

If Doc is given the all clear from Docs then he's recovered too.

What's the alternative? Not play them this year incase they reinjure themselves?

Its a new season.

Pick the best team for a hard, tough battle vs Brizzy.

If we win, the following week will be against Swans or GWS who would have beaten each other up in the local derby.

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I’m ok to risk re-injury to get the best team on the park. But there’s 2 components to that I’d be focused on:
1) Getting the best on the park means the best for that day. A lesser name
Who is fitter and primed might be a better best than a big name who cannot play his role effectively. (I’m not talking about Harry or Charlie here but it might be relevant for whether Cerra plays)
2) I’m not ok to risk re-injury if the risk is for long term injury. Therefore, if the risk of TDK playing when his foot is 80% better is that reinjury could be a Max Rooke situation, that would not be worth the risk IMO.

Beyond that, I am with you - and I have faith that Harry and Charlie can come out firing and kick 7 goals + like they did in Round 0!


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you don't play them bcos they come into the team undercooked, under prepared (for match conditions) and with rust.

... like cerra and cottrell did, which marked the beginning of our slide and since then, we've beaten exactly norf and weagles.


for me - draw a line thru doc, cerra and martin. see them next year. doc already looked a step slow before the knee, so that's a no - go have an offseason and lets see what he's got left for round 1, 2025. cerra with 5 hammies in 12 months, martin played 2.5 games all year - can those guys get through 120 mins of footy? i would say you don't even risk looking for that answer.

williams, mcgovern, Harry would walk straight back into the team if fit.

charlie and tdk - high ankle sprains take months, rather then weeks to heal, so charlie's risk of reinjury will be very high. and likewise with tdk. a big heavy kid, jumps all game long and has a broken bone in his foot. if that was re-injured you start talking he'll miss all of preseason and that starts to derail his 2025. so those particular risks might not be worth a trip to brisbane for a possible 1-and-done finals.

that's just my 20 cents.

It’s not beyond them to lean on O’Farrell KC, who has a young bloke (CHB for Vic Metro/Cannons/SKevs) entering the draft this year…

But, I think they’re just taking their big boy moment after being out-lawyered all season. We probably could win on appeal, but they know where our soft cap is at & they’re prepared to run up the bill.

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