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 Post subject: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:57 am 
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murraycray wrote:
FWIW I read somewhere Princes Park is going to be resurfaced over summer.
Probably routine but.... :roll: ?


Apparently just “regular maintenance”


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:57 am 
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Great so we will be doing pre-season on sub par outiside grounds. That will be good for injuries. I remember we did that one year and we got injuries. Arghhhhhh


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 Post subject: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:02 am 
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Injuries at the start of the season or the end, take your pick….


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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Drewgirl wrote:
Great so we will be doing pre-season on sub par outiside grounds. That will be good for injuries. I remember we did that one year and we got injuries. Arghhhhhh
In 95 we trained a lot on the 2nd oval.

Just saying.

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 Post subject: Injury thread 2024
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Bring back the Skinner Reserve I say

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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murraycray wrote:
FWIW I read somewhere Princes Park is going to be resurfaced over summer.
Probably routine but.... :roll: ?


Layer of concrete under the grass to align with our home ground?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:48 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
Injuries at the start of the season or the end, take your pick….



why don't we have both!!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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I can't believe we couldn't find time during the season to give Charlie's ankle time to repair.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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bondiblue wrote:
I can't believe we couldn't find time during the season to give Charlie's ankle time to repair.
Agreed.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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Well, we gave him time once the Coleman was out of reach... just sayin'


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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well, well, well ... has anyone heard this?


seems outrageous.

Andrew Russell wrote:
"Unless 2 or 3 guys are going down with injuries at training, you're not training them hard enough. you just hope it's not your top 2 or 3 guys going down (laughs)"



https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=896454612515703


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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(laughs)


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:29 am 
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Braithy wrote:
well, well, well ... has anyone heard this?


seems outrageous.

Andrew Russell wrote:
"Unless 2 or 3 guys are going down with injuries at training, you're not training them hard enough. you just hope it's not your top 2 or 3 guys going down (laughs)"



https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=896454612515703



Russell said this early in the season.

We ran out of puff in last years Prelim.
I think everyone agreed it was obvious we needed to be fitter.
The only way to get fitter is to train a bit harder.

He said it as it was. Its not news.

As for the laugh .. there's a fine line between pleasure amd pain.
Its ours and Russell's conundrum with all the injury prone players we have on our list.

I think Russell is an easy target. He's proven himself as a S&C guru with 4 AFL flags.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 10:37 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
well, well, well ... has anyone heard this?


seems outrageous.

Andrew Russell wrote:
"Unless 2 or 3 guys are going down with injuries at training, you're not training them hard enough. you just hope it's not your top 2 or 3 guys going down (laughs)"



https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=896454612515703



Russell said this early in the season.

We ran out of puff in last years Prelim.
I think everyone agreed it was obvious we needed to be fitter.
The only way to get fitter is to train a bit harder.


He said it as it was. Its not news.

As for the laugh .. there's a fine line between pleasure amd pain.
Its ours and Russell's conundrum with all the injury prone players we have on our list.

I think Russell is an easy target. He's proven himself as a S&C guru with 4 AFL flags.



i don't agree. i don't think the contested, hot ball/ hunt ball, bash teams into submission game plan under voss was sustainable. espesh not over a 24 game season and finals.

we were fit. the gameplan wasn't.

what i will say is; russell is using archaic methods. there's no secret there. some of our training and recovery protocols were 20 years old. in the afl's effort to make the game faster, and grounds with no mud/ high drainage, playing surfaces have gotten harder than they were 20 years ago. russell's methods didn't adapt to the game and afl direction.

everything is relative. you have to move with the times. russell was a dinosaur and what worked at hawks wasn't necessarily going to work a decade later with us. and history will prove it didn't. this 2024 season is and will be the one that got away due to injuries. that cruelled us and what could have been.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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So how come Russell cops all the blame ? surely the Medico's are equally responsible . Reckon Russell is a bit of a scapegoat .

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 Post subject: Injury thread 2024
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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
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Lucky our medical team is run by headless chickens, then


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:49 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
So how come Russell cops all the blame ? surely the Medico's are equally responsible . Reckon Russell is a bit of a scapegoat .



yeah like sinbagger said ... High Performance manager recruits his own medicos, physios, consultants etc ... russell had his guys and they were using some really outdated methods.


i know one of the HP managers they're looking at this summer, and he's cutting edge, and his consultant crew and physios would be among some of the best in all of sports. both at putting body's back together and injury mitigation/ recovery - which is the one area i think russell let us down.

flogging blokes until they fall, is some late 90's/ early 2000's tomfoolery.


i'd love to name the bloke they're looking at so everyone can google what a weapon he is ...

ex olympics (chinese team - sprinting and jumps)
ufc
nrl
english prem league
Super 12

... but i don't wanna jinx anything or ruin his chances bcos some yobbo on a forum boards knows his lead consultant.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2024
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 3:53 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
So how come Russell cops all the blame ? surely the Medico's are equally responsible . Reckon Russell is a bit of a scapegoat .



yeah like sinbagger said ... High Performance manager recruits his own medicos, physios, consultants etc ... russell had his guys and they were using some really outdated methods.


i know one of the HP managers they're looking at this summer, and he's cutting edge, and his consultant crew and physios would be among some of the best in all of sports. both at putting body's back together and injury mitigation/ recovery - which is the one area i think russell let us down.

flogging blokes until they fall, is some late 90's/ early 2000's tomfoolery.


i'd love to name the bloke they're looking at so everyone can google what a weapon he is ...

ex olympics (chinese team - sprinting and jumps)
ufc
nrl

... but i don't wanna jinx anything or ruin his chances bcos some yobbo on a forum boards knows his lead consultant.


You have answered my question Braithy . Support staff as well as Russell are involved . Sounds like your mate knows his onions Braithy .

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