Good. Bloke has no idea how to manage soft tissue injuries.

Credit where it's due though - at one stage I never thought I'd see Charlie back on the park

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I know they were just rumours but I wonder if there was any truth to the fact that Voss asked Russell to push the envelope with training over the last couple of years to get them "finals hardened"???

The other rumour was that Voss made some comments like, "if we lose a few players along the way, so be it"

Again, these were things I read either here on BF...presumably by people more in the know than me

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I've heard that too, and I don't blame Voss for saying it if true.

We ran out of puff in the 2n half of the Prelim.

It was obvious we needed to get fitter, and the usual suspects bodies let us down AGAIN.

It should never come as a surprise to see the names Marchbank, Martin, McGovern, Williams, Durdin, Durdin, Carroll, and Cuningham on the injury list. No surprise whatso ever.

As to how and why Saad Cerra and Motlop broke down...well that's 2 who have stood up well over the years, and one whose body is still growing. That happens to any team....now that Swans have a few injured...I shouldve said, happens to every team.

If the bodies can't be built to beat the best, then we have obviously got the wrong bodies, and they need to be replaced.

Russell is not the Recruiter.

I can't believe he gets blamed for soft tissue injuries by people who obviously are oblivious to the reality of AFL footy and what happens to ALL other teams.

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ran out of puff what bullshit ,our players are to slow ,once the opposition move ball with speed our 1 pace team cant keep up.

There's also home ground point too. That's a separate discussion point.

They ran out of puff in the 2nd quarter. I was being lenient suggesting 2nd half.

I was at the game, best spot. The energy levels plummeted based on the previous 3 months games, when we lost 1 game.

Our first quarter when we were 5 goals to zip, showed everyone what we can do when energised.

Energy ran out. That's the main reason I've heard given for our fade out vs Lions.

And that's after 2 huge Finals wins at the G. We weren't as one paced as you allude to. Give some credit to Russell.

Russell got Marchbank, McGovern, Cuningham, Martin on the park, up and running for Finals, along with players with back issues, Walsh and Hewett.

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Yes I tend to agree Bondi
I'm neither anti-Russell nor am I a Russell apologist
Some players JUST DO NOT HAVE BODIES EQUIPPED FOR THE RIGOURS OF AFL!!!!!, and I've highlighted them above
For those who are rejoicing today (I'm personally ambivalent), ask yourself, "do you really really believe another fitness coach would've got another result with those aforementioned players?"

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We had Docherty, Cripps and Acres about as banged up as any players could be while still crossing the white line

And in the end we lost by less than 3 goals, at the Gabba...with Charlie and Martin next to invisible

Not bad for such a one paced team whose opponent came within a goal of the premiership

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Who knows, but we needed to make a change. We need change, if something/someone doesnt work for a few years, refresh it.

I dont think we are fit enough. We cannot run out a full quarters. We have injuries every start of the season and the end. We need to get rid of injury prone players too. We dont have the depth everyone thinks we have.

I also think we need to refresh our recruiting. Not really happy with Austins picks. We need extroverted players that have the desire and flare to win. Every year i wish for those players. It never happens.

Who has he recruited who is a jet. Not just a good footballer- but a real jet. And dont mention players we traded in as we didnt recruit them.

We have been 2nd every year since Russell arrived for games missed through injury.
We are 2nd only to Richmond this year and have lost more games to soft tissue injuries than most teams total injuries

Thanks but close the door on the way out Andrew

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Sydney - Agree. I had high hopes when he came on board. But we have had injuries galore since he came on board. I know some players are injury prone, but geez who knows what ship he has been running. Of course he got some players good, but we have been largely unfit and banged up in my opinion.

Other teams build up to finals, but we are like Thomas the tank engine at this time of the year.

Who knows what we can achieve if we can stay injury free and run out 4 quarters.

I mean we cant dominate for every single minute, but when we stink it up, we really stink it up in a major way.

I’m not convinced the next guy will be any better for those players but I sure hope so.
I think the primary reason we lost it against the Lions in the Prelim is the same reason they lost to us first game this year, and the same reason we lost to the Giants which I believe is what has kicked off our poor run of form: we thought we had it in the bag and took our foot off the gas. Lost momentum. Left the door open for them.

Hopefully, we can turn this around ASAP.


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That's the point 99.

We can't be as slow as some think, when we put up such a great show against the teams which are supposedly too fast for us.
Hey, we beat that same fast team in round zero. We were 46 points doen and over ran them to win by 4 points. repeat, over ran them.

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Martin, Marchbank, Cuningham, Williams and McGovern* should be taken out of those stats

*McGovern has been a mild success story for Russell but we're all waiting for him to break down; ditto Martin and Williams

They are made of porcelain and just don't have AFL equipped bodies

When you look at someone like Jack Crisp who has played 10 years without an injury, you realise that DNA plays a role

Start from there

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Just trying to summarise what happened today. Feel free to fill in the gaps.

Martin - hammy again
Boyd - got a big knock but returned tucked away in the forward line I think? What was the injury? I had Blues Radio on & they were clueless.
Fogarty - some sort of shoulder in the collision with Martin. Or collarbone?
Charlie - ankle, did not look good at all. Maybe achilles.
Saad - hammy again
Mcgovern - shoulder. Did he come back on?

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Martin - yep
Boyd - yep. Looked terrible, hip/adductor
Fogarty - collarbone
Charlie - looked scary as it was innocuous and he went down like shot. Syndismosus was one I heard, but was a bit like the Zac achilles
Saad - hammy
McGovern - yep, shoulder. Did come back on but didn't look great.

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Congratulations CK95

The Scary thing is that those left on the Park are also playing Injured.


Walsh has been playing with one shoulder all year, so is our Captain. Cerra has never been himself since he got back and now we know why!


Weitering has been battling a Corkie for Weeks on, and Mcgovern is a time bomb- only a matter of time before his hammy gives way!

The whole club needs to go on an end of season holiday to an experimental rehabilitation facility in Germany.

I thought Boyd twisted his ankle, as did Charlie.

Boyd had corked quad

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