I thought a bit of a gap would have been established by now, but there's 1.5 games between 2nd and 8th.

This time last year there was 5 games between 2nd and 8th.

IF we are experimenting, it makes it even worse. We are assured of nothing yet. Too even a comp. Not to mention we haven’t ’earned the right’ to do @#$%&! all.

I’m back to having no faith, again.

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If GWS win today there will only be 1 game between 2nd and 8th.

TDK was putrid
Pitto out of form
Cerra out of form
Cottrell out of form
Ollie hollands out of form
Cincotta out of form
Fogarty out of form
Marchbank out of form for the last month
Curnow in form but playing injured, lacking mobility and missing shots he would normally make
Weitering in form but injured and lacking mobility

…but it’s all the coaches fault?

I think you've answered your own question

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Williams playing on like a millionaire instead of taking a simple set shot in the first. Arrogant AF

Players need to be held accountable but so do those that pick the side and develop match tactics

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No doubt Hornet. Both you and Sin are correct in my books - players out of form and coaches selecting underdone players (Cerra, Cottrell) and messing with a winning formula (going back to 2 rucks).
Yesterday was just one of those deplorable performances on many levels. Out of form players across the ground. Poor skills and decision making. Out hunted by the opposition. Our spearhead kicking 3.7. Bad team selection sticking with guys like Cottrell and O Hollands and playing 2 rucks.
For mine, pending the VFL game this afternoon, it’s time to swing some changes. We’ve got players on good form at that level. Reward it especially with so many out of form players in the seniors.

even worse keogh ... it wasnt that weiters fell off or fell away. beveridge moved hagle further up the ground (into a more CHF position - so marchbank went to him) and then played darcy back at FF, who weiters took.

from that point onwards, dogs ate us up.


why are voss and Co so slow to react and see these things in the box and do nothing about it?

simple solution, bring weiters further up the ground on hagle, to take even more intercept marks. and give marchbank darcy in the goalsquare, while always having one of newman or kemp or boyd sliding off their man to offer marchbank help.


on top of poor team selections, for the 2nd week in a row voss was comprehensively outcoached.

yeah absolutely its the coaches fault.

rather than keep pursuing with a selected team that has gone 9-1 they flinched. benching hewett and kennedy? best way to dissolve (inform too i might add) a player's confidence.

and that is the theme from coaching. changing too much, wrecks with player's heads. ruins confidence and belief. in a league wehere 2% matters, voss and co went and destabilised an absolutely up and about team full of belief.

last week into the build of the dogs, it should have been drilled into the group we lost to a team that applied 225 defensive pressure. if by finals parameters that is an astonishing number. but lets lift, get back out there and do what we do. hunt. see ball, get ball, play on move it forward and run these dogs off the park.

100% yday wss on the coaches. both strategic, and in team selections

The goal Ugle Hagan kicked just be 3 quarter time Weitering was on him the ball spilt from the contest
JUH ran to the contest Weitering simply was cooked
I would rest him next week and play Durdin
Even with an improved North if we can’t win then we aren’t up to it

That was infuriating. Then gave away a stupid 50 a minute later by running 5m over the mark. Lack of discipline


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You would have to think they are managing both Hewitt (back) and Kennedy (knee).
Cera has to play if that is the case. Cotty should have come through the twos.
Losing WIlliams early didnt help out usual manic mosquito fleet up forward.
No overlap from Walsh costs us. Looks in pain playing football at the moment.
Trying to turn the game into a slog was a legitimate call from the coaches knowing we were unlikely going to play the way we want to play at our best.
Two rucks helps with a slog. Anyway, we got done. Looks like we have similar cement legs to what we had in our other slump.
I predicting we will come out the other side in good nick and hit the finals running. We are not as bad as the last fortnight and not as good as we were against geelong. Geelong were just in their slump/reset.

Agree. However, I doubt we are experimenting as that would show a lack of respect, display the wrong message to the playing group (although selection integrity is another discussion) and it’s not the time to do.

We should have been forcing players to’earn’ their spot, especially after we were on a bloody good thing 2 weeks ago.
This is on the selection committee - simple.

Defence is Already one any team can massacre.

Leaking more goals than every team except bottom 3.

Absolutely pissweak.

Yes agreed. Yet he has forced Motlop to show something in the twos before picking him ahead of Fantasia. Smacks of double standards and playing favourites. It may or may not
be the case but the optics don't look positive.

+1
I watched the same millionaire attitude in the second half last week against GWS. Hopefully Martin can get fit over the next few weeks and give us a good 5-6 weeks in the team as Williams replacement.

Dogs needed to win to keep their season alive, just like GWS did last week. They brought the heat and Carlton wilted.

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I think we will be ok. A blip in a long season does not a ruined season make!

Watch them get towelled by the Cats next week.