defence wins premierships ,as the old saying goes .Do you think hill would win the norm smith playing for carlton with our game plan .

maybe back when every team played man-on, before the flooding zones, defense won flags. but today you could have the best back 6 in the game, and if you're mids and forward flanks aren't getting up the ground to pressure the ball coming into your D50, you won't stop a team.

but to play along, lets say defence wins flags. then it makes someone like bobby hill even more important. someone to break lines, play off the feet of H and charlie and someone who can swing a game off his own boot.

our defence is sorted. upgrade kemp with another key back. but up front as we've seen time and time again. when charlie and h are being held, we don't hve that other dynamic, fast, agile, creative option to make things happen. to kick an impossible goal from the boundary etc ...

so absolutely, with our high pressure/ high turnover game, could bobby hill win a norm smith in this team.

Braithy yeah you are correct i am showing my age ,but our problem is any team with quick ball movement especially from our F50 we struggle (brissie final ,coll,swans,) gws last week . thats why i dont understand our recruiting we seem to bring slow players

Defence these days is still vitally important but it’s not just defence in the backline.

yeah mate, it's a massive problem, Fast teams shred us open. Swans, giants and pies, and even the lions all continually beat us. we need more pace into the team. that's one of the main reasons i advocate for some proper wheels into the forwardline with a smart and creative and fast small forward.

we could probably draft the next replacement for saad this offseason too. He's not getting any younger and he's proven what having elite pace rebounding off half back can do.

100% it's still important. but overall team defence with the zones teams play today is even more impactful.

this is why i was surprised we went for the lord over the other saad that the druggies picked up. he would have been a perfect replacement. but its done now, we have what we have

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i know mate .. me too. at this point we are obsessed with drafting big bodied, physical mids with one speed.

ONCE AGAIN SAME TOPIC DOGGIES SPEED ,WE CANNOT MATCH QUICK SIDES WE NEED 3 YOUNG CHRIS yarran

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1173998/afl ... A&sfnsn=wa

I don't see anything there about changes to father son for this year

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It'll be interesting to see who is on the chopping block at the end of the year and what or who we can get.
As it stands we may need to do some sleek trading prior to the draft.
Campo boys not even ranked in the top 30 at the moment.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/1173505/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-july-ranking

This means we could still use our 1st to pick up another decent kid (a lot of good mids in this draft) or trade it for an established key defender or mid.

As it stands:
Pick 17 - 1025pts
Pick 37 - 483pts
Pick 64 - 101pts*
Pick 65 - 90pts*
Pick 70 - 39pts*
Total 1738pts
*Picks are in Round 4 so there is a good chance some teams will not be using all their picks and they could be worth more.

Pick 30 = 629pts

i think we definitely need another big bodied kpd as a priority

young hasnt come on anywhere near as much as i'd hoped, despite having good patches

durdin is slow, marchbank is cooked unfortunately, and akuei wont make it

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Hard to disagree with any of that and now is the time to try and nab one from the opposition while we are playing good football.

Can't disagree with any of that, Lemmey might make it as a defender or swingman but on the other hand might end up a forward or not make it at all - no lack of talent. But still another genuine KD is a priority.

A key defender, a speedy small forward, and a speedy mid. In that order.

Hopefully the camporeale twins fill the last category.

At the start of the season I would've prioritised midfield (as I have the last 3 drafts), but as the season goes on a key defender is becoming more and more necessary.

Ben Camp seems to be rated just outside first round. So could end up with 1st round pick, Ben C, a 3rd round pick and Lucas C. One of those needs to be a KPD. Did hear Nick Austin say in an interview he wanted to draft four players.

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Only needs to be a key defender if there’s one we rate available. We can also target one via trade or free agency.

But absolutely agree we need a young key defender on the list, have done since we delisted Ben silvagni and Harrison Macreadie


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Four - as in Lord, Ben, Lucas & Duffy?

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Any chance of snagging a Lawson Humphries with a vey late pick
A mate of mine whose son is a decent player reckons kids are targeted at around 12 and that there are very few changes in terms of what recruiters see as the best juniors are from 12 to Draft age

That’s why guys like Lawson Humphries get overlooked
There are a lot of dumb people involved in footy at the highest level. And that’s why you need someone overseeing the lower leagues like The WAFL
I know Geelong has one
Carlton has currently pick 64,65 and 70