Just to give us a little perspective , James Jordon and Matt Flynn awarded picks 39 & 40 compo.respectively.
I’m not expecting too much from either our trades especially Dow whom OOC, Fisher trade will be a little better , as he’s contracted with 2 years remaining.

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Can’t compare those two.
Both free agents, so regardless of ability, best 22, games played etc etc it all comes down to age/length of contract/$ of contract as to what compensation is awarded.

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Overall we definitely need more leg speed
We rely too heavily on clearances to win games in most situations
Crash and bash footy
By the time we got to the Prelim we were cooked and Brisbane smashed us in clearances
There is a sameness to the midfield

Agree with this, return of a fit Williams will help although where he plays could be interesting. Doesn't seem to have the tank to play big minutes wing or midfield but would add off half-back or half-forward with potentially runs in the middle/wing role. Important we don't overload on the inside mids just because we have quality and depth there - besides which no matter how good you are that sort of footy is taxing and wears you out over the course of the year if you play that way week in week out. Then you end up cooked as we saw with the prelim - not that it could be helped given the draw we had and the hole we'd dug for ourselves during the slump.

In addition to speed we need the endurance beasts in Cottrell, Walsh and Acres and class ball use - of course the problem is except with the truly elite you don't get the 3 traits in one package.

Whilst reviewing the season, I was looking at various drafts of Carlton in previous seasons and 2015 was definitely a great one for The Blues. And every draft since has had some hits and some misses.

https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs/carlton#2017


Yet soon after I started thinking about how Collingwood got Josh Daicos.

It was startling to me that Collingwood didn't sacrifice anything to get him in.



How Collingwood got Josh Daicos...I can't for the like of me work out where the pain was for Collingwood to get him in the draft. All this 20% loading rubbish etc... pay the right price. No loading etc.

To get Daicos it basically meant Collingwood gave up 2022 rd2, rd3 & rd4 and basically in return got 2021 rd2, rd3, and rd4 in return. Where is Collingwood's sacrifice?
Let's hope the AFL end this form of entrenched cheating/advantage giving (call it what you want) going forward "loading". It would be good if Carlton/ Brian Cook etc made a submission to the AFL to end the rort that is the father-son picks. It is a major loophole that benefits certain clubs only.

https://www.draftguru.com.au/trades/202 ... gold_coast

I haven't clicked on the link, but how does the father-son system benefit some clubs but not others? (not including Gold Coast & GWS)

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Can't disagree more. The father-son rule is one of the great rules of the AFL. Every team can benefit the same way.

Well the more I look at the figures the more it looks like Collingwood got a number 1 pick in reality in Daicos for no real cost.
They take 20% off the loading for someone to bid if a father-son.
Well for starters get rid of the 20% loading and then Collingwood probably couldn’t have got Lipinsky in the same draft.
Geelong with Hawkins and Ablett .. it has long ranging consequences all these “loopholes”.

One of the great traditional things in Footy is the Father/Son rule and long may it be the case . Swings and roundabouts . Quite a few will be coming our way shortly starting with the Campo boys . Leave it alone .

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I appreciate that you like the father-son. I "get" the father-son, but I just think you should PAY market rates to get a father-son. The formula is all out of whack.

at present it is .....
2400 points for pick 1 less 20%
2014 points for pick 2 less 20%
etc

It should be
2600 points for pick 1 no discounts, no sweetheart deals etc
2400 points for pick 2 not less anything
etc

If I go in to buy a car I don't expect a 20% discount cause my dad used to work in the Ford factory in Geelong for 5-10 years.
Just a rotten loophole.

Same goes for Swans academy etc.... market rate only. No discounts. No hidden little sweetheart deals.

North have put pick 42 on the table for Fisher.

12 months ago, Acres was “a steal” for a 3rd round pick… are they going to say the same thing about Fisher?

I’ve got my doubts.

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What would Fisher command as compo if he stayed another 12 months and was eligible for free agency? Keep in mind the Giants just received end of second round compo for a Matt Flynn who played just 33 AFL games since joining GWS with Pick 41 in the 2015 National Draft.

Fisher was pick 27 and has played 107 games. It would without doubt be second round at the least. North are getting a pre-agent. They're getting him early. They're going to have to pony up a future second. 42 isn't going to cut it.

Fisher and 67 for 42 and 54 seems fair to me

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40 is ok, but 42 is a no?

A difference of 34 points on the index - which is all that matters, given we’re sending it to Gold Coast.

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No. A second rounder. Not end of second round. There are five landing spots for compensation.

• 1st round
• end of 1st round
• 2nd round
• end of 2nd round
• 3rd round

Pick 37 then…

What is this… Pawn Stars?

Just get the deal done.

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We're in no hurry to get a deal done. He's a contracted player. A future second would be 20-something. If they don't have it they can find it. If they don't find it, he stays. It's not that hard.