Just seen that.
Oh well......

Have to think that Dow/Adam’s would be either/or for them.

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If so I'd take Adams if I was them. 30 y.o. experienced big bodied mid fits their needs more than Dow does

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Cal Twomey is saying Fisher could be worth a future second as the Kangas don't have a second pick this year.
That would be a great return and good for getting the twins next season.
Or it could be traded so we can get back in to the second round this year or give it to the Suns for Hollands or to Port for Sinn.

I wouldn't pay a low 20s pick for Zac Fisher - so if we get kangas future 2nd, that's a bonus.

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Go Blues

They may not have a second round pick but they have the end of first round that was gifted to them.

Strange how every time we’re after a player Twomey et al are “a first or early second” will get it done - but when we’re letting players go it’s a only worth “a late third or fourth rounder”.

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Hopefully means we're improving the list!

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Well, historically you have never been a fan of the Clubs recruiting.



Regards Cazzesman

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Maybe if your old bosses listened to you more.

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Winston Churchill

Atlast

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

He listens to our so called supporters……everyone else’s players are better!

This is true.

Perhaps you hadn’t noticed how slow our midfield is, and clearly you ignored the stats, Cerra & Hewitt centre clearance numbers were appalling during the finals series….

And as for poor ball use, Dow’s worst performance was 4 clangers (several times) compared to lots of 6s, 7s and an 8, Hewitt reached double figures, Kennedy had an 8 and 9.

The view that Dow is a better mid than Kennedy and Hewitt is not uncommon.

They’re all capable of hitting and missing targets, Score Involvements they all performed pretty well…

You state opinions as if they’re facts and totally ignore the stats presented!

And please point out where I bagged the club in the previous post!! Stats/analytics are invaluable, but even then you don’t have to agree. However making stuff up is incredibly poor.

It’s pretty obvious when I do criticise the club, and it’s based on stats/analytics/best practice and/or comparisons with other clubs. And, the club has always been receptive and welcoming because of that…

I’m not advocating getting rid of any our mids, because they all have different strengths, and there’s always injuries. With the longer season, I’d even consider rotating them…

And, there’s no reason why Doc should ever need to attend a centre square….

And just to be clear, Cripps is our best midfielder by a mile, and has carried this club for a very long time

Dow was not selected during the finals series. Hewitt & Kennedy were. So Dow is clearly behind Hewitt & Kennedy in whatever metric is used by the most important observers - the selectors.

Personally, I want to keep Dow. He gives us excellent depth and may still have some improvement left in him. However, he is obviously down the pecking order at Carlton and I can’t blame him if he wants to move to a club that is offering more opportunities and a longer contract. I just keep me fingers crossed that we get a reasonable return.

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Which stats don't reflect it?
Disposals per clanger- Kennedy 8.3 Dow 8.4 Cerra 8.5 Hewett 9.7
Disposals per turnover- Dow 4.7 Cerra 6.4 Hewett 7.0 Kennedy 7.7
Disposal efficiency- Dow 64.8 (Bottom 100 in the AFL) Kennedy 70.3 Cerra 75.6 Hewett 78.2

So Cerra and Hewett have more disposals per clanger than Dow. And all 3 have significantly more disposals per turnover and consequently, all 3 have a significantly better disposal efficiency.
Considering Dow plays less game time so he should be fresher, that's not ideal, is it? So which stats do you have that reflect differently?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Dumping it long to a contest v playing to the gameplan comes into play also. Dow's first few games back in contained a lot of dump kicks.

club 29 / dumping to contest is used by many off our players DoC,weitiering is just 2

Keep Norths F2, trade ours

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I’m scratching my head as l can’t believe the number of posts around Dow.

How anyone can believe he can provide a point of difference when the heat is on during finals time has me baffled.

Obviously the match committee didn’t think he could.

Wish Dow all the best we need better