I’d rather keep Fisher than let him go for peanuts. Dow also needs to be traded, not fkn delisted.

From a poster on BF;

Dow to St Kilda on a 3 year deal.
Possibly for pick 31 and we give back pick 39 (received for Fisher).

Dow and Fisher for pick 31

yuck

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Yuck alright.
If we are paying to get rid of Dow, you really have to ask yourself if Austin is up to the job.

My bigger concern is no:
Honey
Philp
Dow
Fisher
LOB

That is a serious amount of leg speed cut out of our list.
I really hope the priority is to add it all back with kids and trade targets.

And if LOB really has been paid out no matter how little and he goes to another club, that is poor list management, very poor.

If we get Hollands with the pick #31 then I'm ok with the deal.

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If we trade him for Liam that would be a Dow Jones trade.

Currently, it’s a joke of a contract, one that he couldn’t accept. Very similar to what happened to Blake Acres at Freo, he’s not wanted so he’s being pushed out the door.

Which is crazy when you consider we were smashed in clearances after 1/4 time against the Lions 36 - 20.

Dow is our best clearance player and our most durable mid.

Walsh and Dow are our only mids with agility and quick feet.

Dow was very good against quality opposition when given the opportunity late in the season!

So we lose both to move up eight spots in the second round?

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

None of that list has had any real impact on our season.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Probably don’t beat Melbourne and Gold Coast without Dow, he was also very good against the Pies as the sub

Doesn’t allow for the fact there would have been another in his place.

I’m not in favour of moving Dow on for nothing and hope he has a future at the club but he’s got plenty of shortcomings and has had a fair number of opportunities.

Fisher I can’t see in a premiership side.

The rest have done very little.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Dow cannot play defence - he has no interest. Kicking is suspect. He is our 6th of 7th best mid.

Fisher is our 4th best HBF

Neither in our best 28

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You've posted it a couple of times now. Based upon which measures is Dow our best clearance player?

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Well, I got that and thought it was funny, even if no-one else did or they just didn’t think it was funny


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It was on the money too

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

But not out of our best 22 which is the more important.

Took me a while but i finally got it

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#DonTheStash

The club's biggest downfall in the new AFL era (25 years), is that we don't value every draft pick. Treat every single no. like a pot of gold. IMO, it seems we haven't and still don't. This is the issue.

We need to ensure that every trade we do, we receive an ROI on investment. Important part of the business world and should be no different in AFL. There is a lot of hard work and negotiating that needs to be done in every trade situation and IMO we don't take this seriously enough or don't do this well.
We need to ensure our recruiting team start to nail all top 30 - 50 picks. We won't have too many top 10 or top 5 picks from now on. This is where the club is either successful or not long term. Don't get these right and we are back to square one.

I'm sure Cook is reviewing and asking, but do we have the right recruiting team or individual recruiters in place?
How good are our negotiating skills at the trade table?
We will find out soon, but I hope the club is on top of both these questions in 2023 and not 2025!

This is going to be Lloyds defining draft and trade period i reckon.
Its getting complex for us this year and next with father sons etc.

I am not liking the noise about us just giving up Dow and Fisher for next to nothing. Like or agree or not they could be best 22 for us, but they are out of favour with the coaching group.

Second rounders for each one in my opinion. Keep Fisher if North dont pony up. And if St Kilda or Sydney dont pony up for Dow, then make him go to the draft of give him a one year extension.

Dont want us to be pushovers. Look at the deals other clubs like Collingwood do. Role players last year for next to nothing that helped win a premiership.

We pay overs too much. Acres being the exception last year of course. But Fremantle are not good at this type of stuff.