No compo for delisted free agents

Hopefully it's a move to the Swans. Swans have two second round picks (23 and 31) and two third rounders (42 and 50). At some stage in the second round, a club is going to bid on Swans Academy player Caiden Cleary. So I'd be trying to get the Swans to part with 31, 42 and 50 (1,274 points) for 65, 73, a future 2nd from North (Fisher deal) and Paddy. That'd make Paddy about a pick 48/49 which I think is about right.

But he might for more playing time!

I like the maths Doc.

We need 2nd and third round picks in this draft that’s for sure - I’m hoping we can engineer something better than pick 48/49 - whether it’s via a Paddy Dow trade or something else.

Truth be told don’t really want to part with Dow.

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I love the fencing around this topic at this time of year and its great to get all the different perspectives. My take is that simply we are not aware of all the facts and machinations behind the scenes. Who knows what our priorities are this year and what is being planned for over the next 2-3 years which Austin and Co must also be taking into account. We might not gain as much as we would like for next year but it may mean we get more the following year. Who would be a list Manager? After all everyone has an opinion and can provide data to support it.

To get some picks for the Campo twins it looks like Paddy has to be put up on the Auction table.

No others really have much value. Fish is a 3rd/4th rounder.

Regards Cazzesman

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I wonder if the Dow to Sydney talk is an opening for us to swoop in on Dylan Stephens.

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Are we as a supporter base getting overly excited about the Campo twins as we haven't had the F/S success of some other clubs
or
are these 2 boys genuine A Graders?

We'll all know more about them over the next 12 months as they become of draft age.
Fair enough to be wary after being told BSOS and younger brother Tom didn't work out after a fair bit of hype here.
However, earlier this season Kevin Sheehan listed his top 22 prospects for the 2024 draft. He listed Lucas inside his top 10. Didn't list Ben.
It may have been a lower intensity game but the draft class of 2024 played a curtain raiser on grand final day where Ben was awarded the medal for BOG.
In short, I think both look far more promising than F/S we've had in recent times.

We'd be crazy to let Dow go. He is our best clearance player and adds speed away from the contest that we sorely lack.

You might say that we won two finals without him, but remember the other teams didn't kick straight. So we could have easily lost either. In the Brisbane game the lack of speed was obvious.

Then there is the issue of age. Docherty, Cripps, Saad, Williams, Acres and Hewitt will only have 3-4 years in them. Then what? Let's hope we win a flag by then as we will only have Walsh, Cerra and maybe Kennedy carrying the load.

We need to keep Dow and Fisher if we can. They both have limitations, but are in that middle age group where we need to build depth. I would actually have them both in our best 22. We know these guys and they were a big part of our late season revival. Then we keep developing Hollands, Binns and add the Campoeales and we have a dynasty.

We have an opportunity to get not only number 17, but 18 and 19 as well. Let's not let those Flagpies get ahead of us.

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Our ruck situation is below average. Pitto can't do anything else, but ruck. TDK shows promise and can take a good mark occasionally and snag a few goals.

The Pies were successful with Cox and Cameron because they can both go forward. Oscar can do it too. Pitto can't. I would have had TDK and JSOS in the end to give us extra options forward and a bit more mobility. Hopefully, the MC work it out for next year.

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Silvagni

Mate… come on…

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Touching back down on Earth for a second…

If Stocker really is the unrepentant r-sole that he’s made out to be, why would Paddy want to follow him to Moorabbin?

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Maybe he & Zac Jones wanted to form a centreline of Dow Jones Stocker?


(I'll see myself out)

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You bloody better ^^^…!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

It's not uncommon for a top bloke to have arsehole mates. I could send you a list of the dudes I used to hang with at uni.... jeeeeeeesus, I mean, faaaarrrrrkkkk... you'll never meet a nicer bunch.

Yes, and that is why we will get something in return for Fisher (cf. Dow).

It still won't be that much. We can threaten to Fisher hostage in the VFL to squeeze the maximum return out of North. But even then we're talking moving a couple of places up the draft (maybe future late 3rd to mid-early 3rd round).

But that stance carries risks as well as potential rewards, notably the corrosive effect of having a player at the club who desperately doesn't want to be there. Players take notice of that sort of treatment.

I don't think the coaching staff rate him in our best 28. We should be happy with any return we can get.

We'll have to make do with...

Newman
Acres
Silvagni
Durdin
Akuei
...

@#$%&!!

Any chance we trade for Quaynor?

I wonder if LOB still gets paid out if he finds a new home as a DFA?