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Trade Fisher and Dow

7 gone should be enough particularly as we can add Irish lads.

Now to find 3 trades /free agents and take 4 in draft

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These aren’t my views. They are basic facts.
You get told this every year, yet will just continue to ignore the facts and continue with your “but, hey what would I know” narrative.
Sydney got less for Aliir Allir, and barely got that for Jordan Dawson.
If you can please provide me with other examples of where fringe, non best 22 players who dont play key position, aged around mid 20s, have been traded for picks in the teens then I will gladly @#$%&! off……

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- Should play hard ball with the preseason draft
- a sweetener?
- steak knives!
- first rounder or GTFO
- we should draft his brother

Facts are Dow and Fisher have been best 22 in our side since drafted. Fact.

Wasn't LOB contracted for next season?

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Incorrect and irrelevant, but OK.
Nothing wrong with being critical of decisions, as long as your expectations don’t border on delusion.
You rate Dow and Fisher as first rounders therefore you can base anything less incoming as a fail, and on the flip side for example you rated Acres not worthy of a list spot and wouldn’t provide the run and carry we were requiring so therefore paying a future third can be considered overs.

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That's probably why we only played finals when they were no longer best 22.

Acres plays a different position to both Dow and Fisher. I would also argue, that had we played both last game, we might have had some leg speed, as they both provide more leg speed than Acres. Acres had a great finals series but it doesn’t mask over the mistakes he makes during games. You can add McGovern to that list and others such as Cottrell who doesn’t get it enough or Fogarty who offers little offensively. There are many discussion points about various players but that isn’t the point.
Voss plays a slow contested midfield. That’s fine, but let’s hope he doesn’t regret his choices.
They are both worthy of more than 3rd rounders and the only reason they aren’t in the current 22 is coaches choice.
It’s no coincidence that Lomgmuire, Clarkson and Lyon are interested ……….

Incorrect. We played finals because they both added to our side when we needed to win.

I was wondering this too. I’d be a little surprised if we paid him out, given salary cap space is said to be tight.

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LOB did have a 2 year contract. He signed it along with Cottrell last year. They probably needed the list space.

We know that. It just seems a bit weird to pay him out 12 months after signing him to a 2 year deal. The payout would be included in our salary cap, which is said to be tight.

It just makes me wonder if he there was an ‘opt out’ clause if he didn’t play enough games to trigger the 2nd year, or perhaps an option in the contract to pay him out for less than the full amount of the 2nd year if we made this decision after the 1st year.

Or maybe the salary cap isn’t as tight as has been reported and he got a full pay out.

Who knows.

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Rookie contracts are year-to-year, for no more than three years, no matter how long you agree to sign on for.

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It’s ok Blueboy74, I’ve been sparring with Surrey for years but it hasn’t affected me.

His points, to use draft parlance, usually have little “hurt factor” and measure in the “low impact per disposal” category

Can’t agree that Dow and Fisher are worth teens picks. That would be above market. Picks in the late 20s to mid 30s is more realistic currently. You think the limitations we’ve seen for years can be hidden from other clubs? Nah.

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I'd be stoked with picks in the 20's for Fisher and Dow, but I think picks in the 30's or 40's is more realistic.

I wouldn't be shocked to see them go for even later picks, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

I would insist on a high pick for Fisher if he's going to Norf on a 5 year contract, especially with all the draft capital those @#$%&! welfare kings just received.

Good point.

They'll be eager to trade the future picks, too, so as not to risk losing them next year.

First round could be 25 picks deep with all of the bid matching… not that that will be a factor in the deals. They’re still just a points value until draft night.

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Yeah, I meant a pick in the 20's on face value. i.e. a second round pick.