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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:37 am 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:43 am 
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Plenty of people in Blues caps scarves and wear in Brisbane CBD today

Good omen I reckon


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:49 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
Plenty of people in Blues caps scarves and wear in Brisbane CBD today

Good omen I reckon


Are you up there Frank ? hope you have a great time .

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:50 am 
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Harry and Martin are the two certain changes. I would think Kennedy probably makes way for Harry since he effectively took his role in the team.

For Martin it has to be one of Owies, Cuningham, or Fogarty. I think as a group we don’t quite get enough out of these guys. They all play their role but too often they don’t impact the game. When you get 5-10 touches, you have to make them count and last night all 3 of these guys butchered multiple chances, particularly Fogarty.

Motlop is a cut above that group IMO. He’s so much more dangerous around goal and he only needs a few touches to hurt the opposition. He also leads the team in F50 tackles, so he’s an automatic selection for mine. Thought it was madness he didn’t start against Sydney and last night he showed why he should have.

I think Owies stays because he always manages to pop up with his goal or two. I would probably drop Fogarty, his kicking is just so ordinary and he doesn’t hurt the opposition when he gets the ball. At least Cunners can impact the game IF he manages to get his hands on the ball. But I suspect they’ll drop Cuningham. Cottrell is safe due to his running power and his game vs Sydney.

Outside that I can’t see us making any more changes. Could be tempting to drop a tall defender for another small given Brisbane’s plethora of dangerous small forwards. Kemp, Gov, and Cincotta were way too loose at times last night and struggled on the smaller more nimble types. I hate the thought of one of them on Charlie Cameron, Raynor, Bailey, McCarthy, Ah Chee. They really do have an embarrassment of riches in their small-medium forward stocks. That’s the biggest threat in this game IMO.

Kemp needs to learn when to punch and when to mark. Again last night he got out marked trying to pluck one from behind in D50. He also left his man and got stuck in no man’s land a few times. Needs to balance his offensive and defensive mindset and be a bit more accountable.

I still don’t think Pitto is in our best 22 once Harry is back and would rather JSOS, but can understand not wanting to bring in a player into a prelim who hasn’t played for 2 months. Pitto is a pretty limited footballer and does some really dumb things. He knocked it straight down the throat of Melbourne players too much last night, a couple of times completely uncontested too.

The sub has to be a runner. Hollands did well last night giving us that extra run when everyone was spent and giving us an extra number at the contest. I would still lean towards Dow as I think he can win the ball at the source late in the game. He’s had a huge impact coming on as a sub this season.


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Pitto is in our best 22
Watch the game FFS
He was huge last night kept there most influential player and best ruck in the league pretty quiet

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I watched the game, FFS.

He’s not in my best 22. It’s called an opinion. I think our team is better balanced with JSOS but I would pick Pitto for the rest of the season due to JSOS lack of match fitness.


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Last night we came up against arguably the best midfield with Gawn Viney Tractor and Oliver since we have seen since the Lions 3 peat. Last week Gawn played the best game by a ruckman we had seen in years. He has been lightyears ahead of any ruckman in the last 5 or 6 years. He is so good that the 2nd best ruckman going around can't even get in the team.
Last night we lost clearances by 2
We won the centre clearances by 5.
Gawn out marked Pitto once all night.
Pitto made Gawn in effective.
To many people look at stats at the end of the game and don't actually watch the blocks the spoils the taps etc that don't get recorded.
Gawn took that mark late but he was matched up on Kemp and TDK had just run from the bench to make it contest.

If you for one minute think JSOS would have had the same impact on Gawn that Pitto did you are dreaming.

As I said watch the game

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this. i’m not even a Pitto fan but the fact is he did a great job in the SF 2023 and we wouldn’t have won it without him. the stat sheet doesn’t record the battering he put on Gawn. takes a lot to reduce a champion to an ineffective game by their own high standards. we’ve found our elite tall-tagger in Pitto. :-)


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So you might say it was a “Scott Howell” like performance?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:08 am 
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Very nervous about this weekend, the last time I flew to Queensland to see Carlton play Brisbane in 1991 they were the bears and the match was at Carrara and we lost by 7 points.

Also the last finals match that I attended in person was the 1993 GF.

I hope I don’t jinx the team.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:28 am 
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Fear not sinbagger. This team is all about breaking hoodoos and proving everyone outside our tribe wrong!
And proving to ourselves that the boys have earned our belief.
This is the final top 4 team for us to tick off our list!
Obviously, the Lions are favourites and for good reason.
However, we have a team full of weapons that they will be very worried about.
We have the defensive wall to blunt their big guns - esp Daniher and Hipwood. And we can bounce from defence like firecrackers!
Our mids are as good and as deep as any team.
And our forwards have the POTENTIAL to be the best forward line in the comp.
If our forwards click, and our transition forward clicks - a big if but definitely possible - we could confound the footy world!
We went in to our Rd.8 match as favourites and weren’t able to live up to those expectations then. But we are a very different team now.
They have a home ground advantage esp due to the weather conditions (humidity) and moisture on the ball. But we did beat Gold Coast up north a few weeks ago.
And I feel like the crowd will be much more supportive of the Blues than they have experienced for any away team this year!
It is a huge challenge, but how great would it be if we can prevail, as we have so many times in the last 3 months??


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:55 am 
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Small defenders roles will be really interesting. I've been a strong supporter of Cincotta since he came in but he really struggled against Pickett in the forward 50 stoppages. As it's a strength of the Lions, it will be interesting to see his match up. Hopefully he retains his spot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyd get a run. Bailey, Cameron, McCarthy, Rayner. There's a bit of speed and power there.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:16 am 
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Yep, their small could have a big day out!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:33 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Small defenders roles will be really interesting. I've been a strong supporter of Cincotta since he came in but he really struggled against Pickett in the forward 50 stoppages. As it's a strength of the Lions, it will be interesting to see his match up. Hopefully he retains his spot but I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyd get a run. Bailey, Cameron, McCarthy, Rayner. There's a bit of speed and power there.



i have a sinking feeling our only strategy saturday arvy will be: use our team system and rely on structure to defend, extra emphasis on mids not allowing their F50 entry.



this will be a fatal mistake imo ... we need to drop one of marchbank or kemp and make room for boyd and hope he plays the game of his life, alongside saad, newman and chinky and go for extra coverage and run in our D50.

or, maybe get a bit radical. move harry up to wing after the bounce to drag mcandrews up the field and provide a leading target out of defence, doc slithers back from the wing into an extra defender role and acres just keeps blasting that right side from goalsquare to goalsquare


either way, we need an extra mobile defender this saturday or we'll pay the price.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:45 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
Very nervous about this weekend, the last time I flew to Queensland to see Carlton play Brisbane in 1991 they were the bears and the match was at Carrara and we lost by 7 points.

Also the last finals match that I attended in person was the 1993 GF.

I hope I don’t jinx the team.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:49 am 
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Hi Mick ironically up here today and yesterday for work trip coming back tonight
Going back up Saturday morning /early afternoon


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 11:56 am 
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We cant go into our shells and flood and play too defensive. We need to play our game, attack, swarm like we did when we went on our winning run.

I dont want us to defend only to look up and see no one up forward. It will only cause us to bomb long and have to defend again.

I felt a big element of this against sydney and to a lesser extent last game.

We need to be dangerous and make them stress against us too.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:02 pm 
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Carlton's biggest flaw is their inability to move the ball out of their backline. The number of times they turn the ball over will just be gold for Brisbane.
They also lack what Brisbane has in spades ... serious speed. Added to this Carlton are so banged up and playing at a ground that is an absolute fortress.
The odds are so stacked against us. If somehow we do overcome .. it will be a win for the ages. I just think its a mission impossible.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:12 pm 
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Brisbane warm favourites and desrvedly so but so was Essendon* in 1999

Most of the pressure is on Brisbane lets see how they handle it

Danaher and hipwood still flaky and could cost them a big final
Agree mid and small forwards of Brisbane are a worry


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:42 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
We cant go into our shells and flood and play too defensive. We need to play our game, attack, swarm like we did when we went on our winning run.

I dont want us to defend only to look up and see no one up forward. It will only cause us to bomb long and have to defend again.

I felt a big element of this against sydney and to a lesser extent last game.

We need to be dangerous and make them stress against us too.



that hunt and surge forward was kinda accidental bcos of injuries to tdk, pitto, harry etc ... we chose a more mobile team. and we looked damn near unstoppable.

so ... unless we get radical at the selection table and go with an extra 2 or 3 runners at the expense of marchbank, pittonet and i dunno, kemp? (hint: we won't) our only option is to defend with an extra mobile defender.

use harry as a winger and swarm around that contest out of our defense with run and carry into charlie, martin and motlop F50


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:45 pm 
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Cincotta in doubt and Boyd shock in is doing the rounds. Owies could also be dropped.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 12:58 pm 
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Cincotta in doubt and Boyd shock in is doing the rounds. Owies could also be dropped.


Yes , i heard something similar . Love Owies aggression but he just doesn't get enough of it . Think Cunninghams upside is far greater . Always heartbreaks this time of year , but ya gotta do what ya gotta do . Sentiment goes out the window .

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:01 pm 
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Apart from injury, I wouldn’t be changing an 11/12 winning strategy and bringing in players without recent form.
I’m not as worried about our speed as much as others beyond decisions like whether to drop Cunningham given the fast Gabba deck.
I’m more concerned about being clean, keeping the ball moving forward, and constant movement ahead of the ball. If we do that, we look pretty quick irrespective of how fast our players can/can’t run.
We’ve won 11 of the past 12 and esp towards the beginning of that run, we looked fast and scored freely.


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I bought a live site ticket and they just sent an email out saying you have to line up and register to enter? WTF?
Can only imagine the delays that will cause.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:23 pm 
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Cincotta in doubt and Boyd shock in is doing the rounds. Owies could also be dropped.


Yes , i heard something similar . Love Owies aggression but he just doesn't get enough of it . Think Cunninghams upside is far greater . Always heartbreaks this time of year , but ya gotta do what ya gotta do . Sentiment goes out the window .


Wow, huge news.

No chance they keep Bam Bam and drop Cuningham?

I'm assuming it'll be:

In: McKay, Martin, Boyd

Out: Cincotta, Owies, Kennedy/Cuningham

I like Braithy's idea of Harry playing further up the ground. If they go that route, do you keep Kennedy because he's a better target inside 50, or do you keep Cunners who can swap with Harry if/when he needs to play deep forward?

Cuningham on a wing would also allow Doc to focus on helping the defenders more. But Cunners hasn't exactly been in red hot form lately.

Tough one.


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