I’m not sure Marchbank is really a ‘tall’. Isn’t he an excellent runner as well? Whilst he has had a bit of the fumbles, he has also clunked some good contested marks.
I reckon he and McGovern (and Kemp if required) could also play on the medium forwards like Heeney if required.

I would expect Newman to go to Heeney and Saad to stop and then run off Papley returning from a hammy.

I think Hewett will get the job on Parker. And Cottrell will run all day with Gulden to make sure he doesn’t get easy 2nd or 3rd possessions in a chain.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Acres is a late withdrawal for Hollands. With Dow as the sub. Or possibly Fisher because he can play back, mid or forward if required.


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Heeney will go to Cripps.
His form up forward has been questionable
He took Cripps out of the game last time.
Swans are fairly tall up front.
Don't want Fisher playing finals he squibs to much. I think the next time you see Fisher play he will be wearing blue and white stripes

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i can't shake the feeling we've lost this game before the bounce.


effectively starting an elim final down two men on the bench, defies any logic i can think of. marchbank and tdk can only play 1 position.

i was so against playing 1 man down on the bench with a ruck there, but to double down and chuck a tall defender there as well?

what will be the rotations? we're going to rotate defenders all night so marchbank gets a run? whoever asked above, marchbank is not an excellent runner, not an efficient user of the ball. since he's last knee injury looks a step slower again. i'm so stunned I couldn't sleep last night trying to figure out why we'd pick our slowest team on the season against the best turnover and spread team in the comp

and in all of that our most dynamic hit the scoreboard small forward isn't there? fog and owies are good for our structure, but never are they going to be a matchwinner, like say motlop Vs port.

like ... all i can think of is gov must be under an injury cloud and marchbank to replace him at warm up, motlop to come to the bench and probably hollands as sub.


collingwood can get away with 2 big rucks and 2 big forwards - they're the best scoring team from their own D50. that's their dna. (even then, if dees kick straighter, they win last night)

our dna is contest and to be mobile and hunt the ball when we don't have it, and link handball chains with run and carry and spread when we do have the pill.


it's an apples/oranges comparison to say pies did, so we'll be right too.

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Vossy has made it clear with his selections the type of players he wants to go in with. Still think he has the balance wrong and seeing last nights game reinforces that.
Yes Pickett sprayed it all over the place, but could have easily kicked 4 at least. Hill kicked 3?
Motlop in particular should be there. One of our few true crumbing forwards, can make something out of nothing, has great goal sense. This is a mistake. Just hope it doesn't prove costly.
Getting more and more nervous that we do a Melbourne and dominate general play, inside 50s, but fail to convert. I know we have a far better forward line than they had last night, but struggling to shake that feeling.
Is there a finals worry room?

some nervous nellies here.

i get it, i have to try and work and all i can think about it is the game tonight.

like others have said TDK isnt Gawn, we need another Ruck. Agreed Pitto is on the slower side, and SOS would be the perfect 2nd ruckmen, but he isnt available. Honestly, i dont want to see McKay anywhere near a centre bounce. It was worth trying, in a dead rubber, but not in a final (it might be worth working on next year at different times, but again, not in a final)

I like our side.

i would like to see Motlop in for Marchbank/Cunningham, as another small forward, but Fogarty has been excellent in that role, and has gone through the midfield at times. Cunningham can probably consider himself lucky, but again his skill level gets him there. Owies is good for a couple and martin is a gem IMO. He is almost our hardest player and we have some hard heads. The then twin towers.

Thats the right balance up forward.

Our midfield is great
Our defence is solid
Wings look good

honestly thought last night was screaming for a big forward to take control of that match ... but neither side had one. McStay is a quasi tall forward and probably got them over the line. Van Roun (still a kid) was quiet, and will most likely miss next week.

Win today, and i think we are more than a chance next week. And winning today will be no easy win. Its going to a brutal contest, which is why i feel our selection is right. Hard bodies for a tough match. Hollands has done nothing wrong though.

and for half the season with no injuries in the squad, voss got it completely wrong. we were bottom 4 calibre quality for our 9 loss streak.


the win streak looks completely accidental now - born out of enforced changes from injuries, rather than a radical shift in ego from voss that what he was attempting to do in the 1st half of the season -slow play and bludgeon the other team to death with big bodies, does not work in modern footy.

pies are modern footy and for a 9 game win streak we were modern too. can't shake the feeling we're going backwards tonight and the dissection of this game should and could be brutal.

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Braithy Im not over the moon with a few selections Marchbank Pitto etc but given weather here and contested finals footy in my view if we play our best we beat the Swans with this squad
However last night shows if you dont take your opportunities you can dominate and still lose

The losing streak we were on earlier was because we werent playing well but also that we didnt take our opportunities plenty of weeks in that stint where we kicked 6 or 7 goals 13 with a few out of bounds
Our winning streak of 9 we did play better but also took our opportunities when they were presented ie kicked the goals put the pressure on

If our team takes the oportunities and brings the pressure tackling and defensive we beat the swans tonight

Agree with this. Bewildered that Motlop is not in


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Not sure what all the worrying is about this morning.
We're in the finals, if we lose then we will be better for it next year.
I trust Voss and co know exactly what they are doing and the respective match ups.
It will be a very very tough game.
If Acres is good to go I reckon the sub will be Dow, he has speed and has been good in the contested game.
I'd like to see Motlop play but can't see who he'd replace, maybe Cunners?
If we have to play Hollands or Fisher it'll be to our detriment, both too light and Sydney will come out hard.
If Acres is still sore, I'd prefer if they gave him an injection and put him on, he'd still have more impact, even if he kicked 3 OOB.

That is how I fear it playing out. We wrote the book on that style of loss earlier in the season.
We will require a few goals straight out of the middle to win I reckon.

The weather completely sucks right now. Hope the wind dies down because it is awful outside.

So much scarring from the last 10 years and the mid season slump.

We've got this.

Blues by 5 goals (and +30 hit outs to advantage)

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agree with your notion here.

our opportunities we didn't take was mostly bcos of the slow play getting it F50 and set shots from flanks etc

in the win streak - running and carrying we had so many goals on the run and vacant goal square gimmes bcos our system up the field had changed and our contested ball was thru the roof.


dees looked like us during our lose streak last night. imo, for us to look more like pies (which we did for the win streak), we're too slow with the team we picked.

next year isn't a given - to have our whole list healthy right now is a boom. our last 10 years without finals is proof how hard finals are to make. and to come into these finals with no real clear favourite to win it all.

this might be the best chance we ever have with cripps as captain to grab number 17,


(motlop needs to replace marchbank. we don't need another tall defender)

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Bizarre decision.

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