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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:36 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Swans have played 6 games at MCG in the last 2 years and won one

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The one they won was a big QF against Melbourne last year.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:39 pm 
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Yep. Strongly leaning towards bringing Pitto back. H needs to spend pre season working on his ruck craft amongst other things but can't go into a final with him as back up ruck.


Only needs to ruck for a short time. Did get 16 possessions, 10 contested and 5 marks. Prefer that to a few tapouts anyday. Tap outs can be an overrated stat. How many sides have dominated tapouts but got smacked in the clearances.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:45 pm 
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I thought Harry worked hard, can't fault his efforts. But I really rate Mclean & Hickey & think we need to bring Pitto back in.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:49 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
Hate to say this, but without Silvagni we need Pittonet to play. TDK with H pinch hitting doesn't work.


Really? I liked it. I thought TDK was close to our best and McKay (although rusty) got involved more. In a game where we didn't really try I thought the signs were good.

Against Hickey & Mclean this week I would continue with it

The worry is that if we can’t score from stoppages, we can’t score at all.

Cripps coming in will be a plus, same with Kennedy if he’s right to go. But it starts in the ruck.

Experimentation is over. We have to lean into our strengths.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:49 pm 
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i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:09 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.

Hope you're right Bondi.
I guess the AFL would prefer us to win this match as a Pies/Demons vs Carlton final would create much interest and fill the MCG. Hopefully this works in our favour........maybe Gill will have a quiet word with Michael Christian.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:11 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
Hate to say this, but without Silvagni we need Pittonet to play. TDK with H pinch hitting doesn't work.


Really? I liked it. I thought TDK was close to our best and McKay (although rusty) got involved more. In a game where we didn't really try I thought the signs were good.

Against Hickey & Mclean this week I would continue with it

The worry is that if we can’t score from stoppages, we can’t score at all.

Cripps coming in will be a plus, same with Kennedy if he’s right to go. But it starts in the ruck.

Experimentation is over. We have to lean into our strengths.


I don't see it as experimentation. How many side play TWO rucks

Pies - Cameron/McStay
Melb - Gawn/Van Rooyen
Bris - McInerney/Daniher
Saints - Marshall/Hayes
Swans - Hickey/McLean
GWS - Briggs/O'Keefe
Port - Lycett/Finlayson

and how many Premiers have used TWO rucks? The extra runner in the modern game is vital

We have won so much contested ball even when bening beaten in the ruck over the past 2 months

Ideally we would have Jack playing but I like McKay playing more a Joe Daniher role. That's my take


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:12 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


if you're right, i'm going to fly down to bondi and kiss you on your magnificent lips!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:19 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


Careless, high contact, low impact = Fine. I can't see how they could argue against any of those parameters.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:27 pm 
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The Swans are the AFL love child though.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:29 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


if you're right, i'm going to fly down to bondi and kiss you on your magnificent lips!


Braithy you could find yourself in hot water - intentional, high, medium impact - that's at least 2 weeks :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:31 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


Careless, high contact, low impact = Fine. I can't see how they could argue against any of those parameters.


toby bleeding could be grounds for higher impact?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:32 pm 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


if you're right, i'm going to fly down to bondi and kiss you on your magnificent lips!


Braithy you could find yourself in hot water - intentional, high, medium impact - that's at least 2 weeks :wink:



not to mention the assault with a flagpole.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:43 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


Careless, high contact, low impact = Fine. I can't see how they could argue against any of those parameters.


toby bleeding could be grounds for higher impact?


Not related - the bleeding is from the other side of his face.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:44 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


Careless, high contact, low impact = Fine. I can't see how they could argue against any of those parameters.


toby bleeding could be grounds for higher impact?


Bleeding was from the opposite side to the "gouge".

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:46 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


Careless, high contact, low impact = Fine. I can't see how they could argue against any of those parameters.


toby bleeding could be grounds for higher impact?


How??

Weitering's hand touched the left side of Greene's face - Greene was bleeding from the right eye - probably self inflicted when he slammed McGovern's head into the ground immediately before the "incident".

There's absolutely nothing in it. Weitering will be free to play.

The fact that the stupid commentators and media haven't picked up on that yet is truly mind boggling....

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:48 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
The Swans are the AFL love child though.

Yes who could ever forget Barry Hall being cleared to play in the 2005 Grand Final after blatantly punching Matt Maguire in the guts.
Saying that I think the AFL would prefer us to win this match as a Pies/Dees vs Carlton final would create much interest and fill the MCG. As mentioned above I hope Gill has a quiet word to Michael Christian.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 1:56 pm 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
i think weiters will get a week. accident or not, they don't want players around the face, let alone the eyes. more should be made of why greene is choking mcgovern 20 seconds after the whistle was blown for a free, but all that seems to be lost


weitering is pretty dumb. eve of the finals and he's out here giving lash and brow treatments


You're always nervous when its Carlton vs MRO.

Nothing in it.

Fleeting hands.

Don't worry.


if you're right, i'm going to fly down to bondi and kiss you on your magnificent lips!


Braithy you could find yourself in hot water - intentional, high, medium impact - that's at least 2 weeks :wink:

Medium impact?

That sounds like a challenge.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:10 pm 
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jim wrote:
We should of been playing Adelaide this week.


This was posted an hour ago and no one has commented? Maybe I could of…..


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:12 pm 
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Its time to get the band together for Finals.

I expect Pitto- TDK is Vossy's preference (and mine during Finals) to be back as business as usual.

I was impressed to see Harry pushed into the ruck, to see what happens (like Vossy said). I don't want to see that again during Finals.

I want 2 KPF's: a CHF and a FF, all the time, and we have Harry and Charlie to do that. So do it!

I notice on footy forums and in conversation there's a real preference to get Boyd back over Fisher to play defense. I'm really disappointed Boyd wasn't given game time in the last 3 weeks, like [url]all[/url] the other players (including depth) have enjoyed. Fisher was never going to be a loose player in defense during Finals. It does not happen.

Kempy wasn't great, and have felt all along he's been playing well, but is still serving his apprenticeship (developing). Ive enjoyed watching marchbank improve by the week and looked good when he came back on.

Weiters will be free to play, maybe pay a fine.

I'm assuming Acres will be right to play.

Cripps - Dow
Docherty - Hollands
Pittonet - Fogarty
Boyd - Fisher
Motlop - Durdin
Marchbank - Kemp

If Acres doesn't get up in 2 weeks, Hollands is in the team.

Sub Kemp.
Emergency Dow Hollands Fogarty

Dow, Kemp and Hollands unlucky.

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