Interesting with LOB. I have watched the last few Reserves games and he has played as an inside mid and looked very good. Surprised me.

Like moving Fisher to HB or Cottrell to HF etc sometimes when you try a different player in a new role you can find something. With a contract for next I think he will stay

well, that's not even close to the kind of incentive laden contracts nfl, mlb etc do.

what a roaring shitshow.

Yeah sorry I didn’t word that well. I don’t think we will or should sack LOB with a year to go on his contract but he’d be the other one I wouldn’t lose sleep over, ie he’s dispensable.


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I reckon you're spot on. That's 4, and now I'm thinking you were correct to suggest 5 or more changes.

3 Primary List players.
1 Cat A and one more to go

1. 2023 First Round Draft
2. 2023 First Round Draft ...by trading our 2024 first round pick, plus some.
3. Promote a Rookie
4. FA and it looked to me Gresham has checked out TBH

Looks like we need another off our Primary List to make room for the rookie promotion we need to make to comply with number list max, or pay out a 2024 rookie contract.

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Round 18 vs Port Melbourne
He moved into the middle when Carroll went off early IIRC
28 Disposals
10 Marks
7 Tackles
5 Clearances
6 i50s
Plus a heap of good body work.
Only down side was he missed a few sitters in front of goals, he would've been BOG otherwise.

LOB in the guts? For real??

Get him back in the gym over the summer and see if he can gain even more weight. It's worth a shot.

I hope he has a crack.

Yes, looked ok, at VFL level.

and so did Dow. Amazing what can happen when you get a better culture and try players in different roles

Had an interesting chat yesterday. Didn't change my opinion on Gresham's form and potential costs.

Maybe Gresham has checked out, and his performance this year and last weekend was a reflection of that.

List decisions are an ongoing and some list decisions were made months ago following talks with player managers.
So the scene is set, but there's always last minute left field opportunities that may happen during trade period.

In Austin I trust. I accept that Gresham is important for depth, incase the likes of injury prone players like Cunners breaks down.

Cunners 1 year deal and Govs 2 year deal look to happen.

Fisher's and Dow's value has gone up, and we would like to improve the positioning of our 2nd pick for the better.
If we can create a good 3rd pick, there will be another player delisted.

I know Vossy loves Honey's potential, but I don't think Philp and Honey will survive .... because Marchy is valuable fit.

Farmer Blue, you know stuff.

We have to cut 2 rookies. Ed is the only one out of contract.
Which of our rookies are better than the players out of contract, not including Cunners and Gov? That is the question. If not, someone else contracted on the rookie list has to be cut.

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and the list keeps looking better as the fruits of development plays a bigger role at Carlton. Having our own VFL team is the catalyst.

There's also forgotten players returning from long term injuries too: Charlie last year, Cuningham, Gov, Martin, Marchbank.

I can't see players wanting to leave the club. Fisher doesn't have to go, even if the club wants to accomadate a trade; he's contracted.

Now, if LOB looks ok as a mid, would he be behind Dow who is behind Cerra, Kennedy, Walsh, and next year maybe a Gresham type?
Is LOB worth keeping as a mid, coz we don't need him on a wing. I can see Austin looking for a home for LOB.

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I definitely don't know stuff. I just go to training and Reserves a fair bit and speak with people there. Anything I say is at best 2nd or 3rd hand

LOB's biggest criticism is he short steps the contest and he panics if under pressure.
If playing him in the midfield gets rid of these to a degree (I doubt it will 100%, like Young also) then he possesses other important attributes that our wings and Dow don't have.
Dow is a terrible kick, always has been and always will. I want him to succeed but he really needs to work on this but he may never be able to.
He showed glimpses on the weekend, but up until that goal he was going to be subbed off.
LOB is both quicker and a better kick than all of our other wings and a better kick than Dow, just not as tough (neither was Dow or even Fish to a degree until this year either) which has been his downfall for the Voss high pressure contested game plan.
Gresham is not a wing, plays mid but really is a forward and if we get him it will be to cover Cunningham or Cottrell at the moment not any of the mids.

Well I was speaking with someone who usually knows stuff, not a player or exec, and in his opinion, yeah right, with the little knowledge he had, said exactly what you thought would happen and went in to more detail as to why. I nearly agreed with what he said, but understood where he was coming from, but still couldn't believe Gresham would be the best available if we made Finals, a Prelim, let alone a won a Flag.

I love our list, and I love the Under 23's we have on our list and look forward to adding a couple more good kids to that, rather than lose a couple. I guess, even if we lose the speed of Philp and Honey, our list still looks great, and the Campo boys and Walker's boy in the next couple years will bolster the Under 23 age bracket.

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If we add 3-4 good draft picks
Maybe a FA or two
and 1-2 rookies of pre season picks I will be happy

I would love to get a Flanders or Henry who are looking to come to Melbourne but I'm not sure how

We will draft 1 more Cat B an Irish fellow to add to Akuei too

4 Draft
1 FA

5 New Primary List
2 Rookies
That's 7 players, of which 4 rookies have to go: 2 delist and 2 promote to Primary.

7 Players from the Primary list to go? WOW. That's huge at this stage of our list imo.

Might need some input from Spooky Galt. Love to hear his take on this.

Lets see:
7 Primary List spots delist/Trade
1. Plowman...Draft 1
2. Philp.........Draft 2
3. Honey.......Draft 3
4. Dow.........Draft 4
5. Fisher.......FA
6.Marchbank...promote Boyd
7.Fogarty...promote Cottrell

2 Rookies to delist or 2 to promote

1.E.Curnow
2. LOB
3. Boyd for Marchbank or new player
4. Cottrell for Fogarty or new player

The shuffling of deck chairs Boyd, Cottrell, Marchy, Fog really isnt necessary, but their spots look precarious if Austin had his eyes set on a couple new rookies.

Pressure to be retained on the Carlton List is on starting today vs Dees. Marchy, Fogarty, Dow, Fisher are on show. Honey has to perform big time in the reserves, along with Philp.

Sad to have to lose kids. Then again, its sad to lose first round draftees.

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https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa ... 04893.html


One of Kerry’s most precocious dual players Rob Monahan is on the cusp of signing a two year contract with Melbourne AFL club Carlton.

Monahan, who plays football with Ardfert and hurling with Kilmoyley, is set to head Down Under in late October or early November to join up with his new teammates in the Australian Football League.

Thanks Farmer

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Great news. A free player. Not counted towards the salary cap.

I think we can sign up another Irish lad, but that would have to be through the rookie draft.

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I don’t know the correct terminology, but let’s go with ‘rehoming fees’… I believe they’re counted somewhere under the soft cap.

If he does sign on, he’ll be the 46th player committed to the club.

44 Total:
36-38 Primary
4-6 Category A

There’s no limit for Category B - until logic kicks in. You can’t have any more than four, given the other conditions.

* subject to makey uppy, of course.

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