Fair enough Farmer.

You name 7 forwards we can add Gresham to.
Adding Gresham makes it 8.
Now let’s say TDK or Pitto is first ruck. Who gives them chop out?
Let’s look at that.
If TDK is first ruck, then Inguess SOS will be waxing the ruck role. He will be spending most of his time in the forward line or on the bench with the other 2 forwards (remember with Gresham we have 8 forwards.

If Pitto is first ruck and TDK stays, TDK will be doing the same as the TDK first ruck scenario.
That gives us 9 forwards: 6 on the ground and 3 on the bench.

Nah, can’t buy your theory. Gresham is depth and yes he does kick the ODD goal, but that’s not what we are after.

He’s depth as a HF? OK, that’s when Martin or Cuningham are injured and Owies is also out plus someone else.

Gresham would be depth. Is that what we really need. I’d think for that one spot we have other pressing needs in the backline and in the ruck…developing young draftees to fill those roles later on.

If Austin takes Gresham, I will accept it but…..

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Or, may have to sell for better picks than 65 84 and 189 whatever.

We need good quality draftees in the next couple drafts to develop in positions of need: mid, KPD, Ruck a real one, and more mids, but good ones. High draft picks are no guarantees, that’s why I think we need a couple good ones this year and a couple next year. The 2 first round picks in ‘23 and ‘24 should make our list irresistible.

That’s why I don’t want Gresham taking the spot of one of these draftees or forcing us to get rid of a good player in a position we already have ample depth. I respect Gresham is a free hit as a FA but he takes a spot on the list that will cost us in other ways.

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Me too…and I agree with you.

Flanders does have upside but if Holland’s is a goer, it’s a no brainer. We won’t get Holland’s. he will cost too much…we haven’t got the picks for a start other than the first rounder. That pick isn’t for sale.

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Well said.

That’s another need we have to develop. I don’t think Carroll is a HB. Cowan and Kemp are, but I’m hoping Kemp finds his way in Cripps role down the track

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Yes!!!!

TDK signs for 2 years!

A mate just called me. He saw it on Instagram by Cheer squad

I don’t do Insta Face book or off your face book.

Anyone confirm that news?

Farmer?

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I won’t believe it until I see it on X.com

confirmed, on the website

Correct weight

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/13881 ... tay-a-blue

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Wonderful news.

How’s the list looking now

Carlton is the place to be.

All the most important players/ positions signed.

Our window is now.

Let the games begin.

Those out of contract have to decide if Carlton is where they want to be, and better start showing it from tomorrow: Gov, Marchie, Cunners, Dow…you have 5-10 weeks.

Did I mention Carlton is the place to be

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This is great news but I hope JSOS isn’t the collateral damage.

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This is just what I wanted to hear this week. Fantastic news.
@Agro - agree mate but I feel he'll now get done shortly as well.

2 million in cap next season on two full forwards is exactly the definition of top heavy. when the cats got cameron, it was only bcos hawkins did the team thing and accepted much less money to play on with his next contract. not sure about jack and lynch at tigers, but i suspect the same thing.

which is why (in financial and cap terms) it's an apples/ oranges comparison. 1 veteran forward and one younger guy is not the same as two young guys approaching their prime and both want to be paid.


whether we like them or not - players like gov, DC, SOS, play a pivotal role (which we have no one coming thru who can do the same job) in our team, and replacing them will not be cheap. Picking up their next contract won't be cheap.


i suspect tonight is a glimpse into next season. pittonet main ruck, while tdk plays in the jack role - bcos jack won't be offered money. it's a shame bcos we lose a lot with jack not in the team.

I didn't say they would all play at once?

It's depth and competition for spots. It's what we desperately need to go to the next level. Hopefully he can play to his potential. Won't cost much and is a free hit

Happy with TDK over two years. Impressed me last two weeks as No.1 Ruck. Sounds like the Cook influence is working.

I reckon previously we would have given him a 5 year $800k deal. Now he has good money for two years and then everyone can assess then if he is a $1m player or not

we should not recruit GRESHAM ,we have enough of his kind and wen are we going to stop recruiting name players from other clubs ,go to draft ,rookie list find a gem rich and coll have done it for example. Back to gresham my daughter friend passionate saints supporter and even goes interstate to watch games and she doent care if he leaves said gresham done (keep away )from this player.

yeah saints fans are frustrated by him and most i speak to don't rate him.

i've only watched one saints game since we flagged interest. and i didn't hear his name called until the 4th qtr. we do have a few of those already.


if it meant losing jack for jade, i'm not sure thats good business.

How could anyone watching what’s going on with these Filth defenders not think that we’d be a better forward group with Harry…

Get a clue

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Like I said, its a pretty good list.

We have beaten the 2 top sides in 3 weeks, but stopped our run of 50+ wins with a 16, shoulda been 50, point win.

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