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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:14 pm 
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As much as I want to give the Collingwood game our all, the reality is the weeks after are more important. I am talking in regards to players' injuries and managing these players.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:15 pm 
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I think this game is a bit of a free swing tbh. With our injuries no one will be expecting us to win and a loss won’t detract much from the progress we’ve made. Beating Port gave us one of the upsets we needed to make finals. We only need 3 more wins and we have 3 that we’ll start favourites in, plus I think we’ll be a real shot against Melbourne. So not much to lose, but who knows, the way we’ve been playing we still might cause Collingwood some problems. We still have enough good players out there to win especially if Cripps, Cerra, Martin all get up


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:10 pm 
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Agree Collingwood & Melbourne are very difficult hurdles get over, we’ll try our very best but one wouldn’t be dismayed if we didn’t bring home the points.
As for remaining 3 games , Saints and Giants won’t be push overs , prefer we have as many quality players ready to go, especially as these teams too have finals aspirations and things will heat up towards the pointy end of the season.
Suns at Marvel, should be a certain win.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:12 pm 
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Suns are up there.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:22 pm 
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My take for this week

B: Cowan Weitering McGovern
HB: Newman Kemp Saad
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Cuningham Young Cottrell
F: Martin Charlie Fogarty
Foll: TDK Docherty Cerra
Int: Hewett Dow Cincotta Curnow (Marchbank)

Still a strong side. Still a chance Motlop Owies are available

Missing Walsh McKay Silvagni Motlop Williams Boyd Kennedy Durdin Owies
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 6:26 pm 
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Given that the pressure is off for this game, because of our injuries and because we are already ahead of schedule in terms of wins required to make finals, I hope we throw caution to the wind.

I think I'd rather lose by 8 goals trying to play our style, than lose by 4 goals playing a very negative style of football and spending all game trying to stop the bleeding.

Which on the one hand is ridiculous, because percentage could be important. But on the other hand, if we don't keep trying to play our way, and try to figure out how to do it without Walsh, we may not win enough games to make the 8 anyway.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:06 pm 
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Providing Cripps, Cerra, Martin and 2 of Motlop/Owies/Durdin are available then we are a chance.
Remember that Walsh, Hewett and Kennedy were all missing in Rd 23 last year.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:37 pm 
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B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:33 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow


Not a bad side and would be a decent chance this Fri night.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 9:51 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


Like it " Vain ". Particularly having Hollands play the Sam Walsh role . Sure as hell he's got the tank for it . Hollands is eventually going to play midfield so no time like the present . See what the kids made of . I"d have Young in there for cover but apart from that i reckon thats the side right there BV .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:10 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


Like it " Vain ". Particularly having Hollands play the Sam Walsh role . Sure as hell he's got the tank for it . Hollands is eventually going to play midfield so no time like the present . See what the kids made of . I"d have Young in there for cover but apart from that i reckon thats the side right there BV .



I agree. I think with the Collingwood rucks we need both Pitto and TDK.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:38 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


tbf, down the stretch last year in those tight, must-win games marchbank was bottling it and making more costly mistakes than anyone in our backline.

i'd sacrifice Doc and put him in the boyd role, and move ollie into the doc role.

having that mobility & run in the backline has been the biggest contributor (outside of Walsh's form) to our win streak. marchbank imo can only replace one of kemp or gov.

cowan can man-mark a player, but can't do anything else at this stage of his career so we need to replace him.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 10:17 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


I think if it was just Murphy and Moore it wouldn't be a problem but you add Howe Qaynor and Maynard if we dump kick into Charlie we are history. Pies set up at the stoppage much like a Rugby scrum and give you the defensive side- If you feed the ball back you have to use the extra and run and carry if you just feed it back and dump it down the line you will get torn to shreds . Conversely if they win it they set up like a line of scrimage and feed the ball across the ground until they find an opening to get through . Their defenders are not frightened to leave their opponents and run in waves down the field. Port counted this by getting the forwards to follow and tackle - Other teams tend to let them go hoping they will get turn over and get cheapy out the back.

We are going to miss Walsh this week he has been pushing forward from the stoppage and breaking the line and giving deep entries which are harder to defend , I dont know who has the ability and pace to pull this off in the team

Their forward line would not be the greatest in the comp and I think our defence has them covered . Midfield they have the edge with Walsh and Kennedy out . Cant see how we kick a score without Harry and JSOS and if Martin doesn't get up it will get worse.

tempted to play Marchbank and push Kemp forward to play a negative role on one of their marking defenders just to give them a chop out .
No JSOS means Pitto has to play and TDK needs to go forward - I know that is not his one wood but someone needs to be a foil for Charlie

they beat us by 28 last time and we were playing rubbish - Moore had a day out - We are playing better now so we are a slim chance - Anything less than 70 to 80 tackles we will struggle .

Cox has been putrid the last 4 weeks lets hope that form continues

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:07 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
My take for this week

B: Cowan Weitering McGovern
HB: Newman Kemp Saad
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Cuningham Young Cottrell
F: Martin Charlie Fogarty
Foll: TDK Docherty Cerra
Int: Hewett Dow Cincotta Curnow (Marchbank)

Still a strong side. Still a chance Motlop Owies are available

Missing Walsh McKay Silvagni Motlop Williams Boyd Kennedy Durdin Owies
from best 25

Regular poster on BF saying likely only Cripps gets up this week, do you have any knowledge that would contradict this ? please say you do lol


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:10 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


Not a bad side with the 4 ins, but I think you have missed another out here - Ed Curnow?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:19 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:20 pm 
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Mil Hanna wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


Not a bad side with the 4 ins, but I think you have missed another out here - Ed Curnow?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:26 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Mil Hanna wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
B. Marchbank Weitering Newman
H/B Kemp McGovern Saad
C. Docherty Cripps Acres
H/F Cuningham Martin Hollands
F. Cottrell Charlie TDK
R. Pitto Hewett Cerra
I/C Cincotta Fogarty Motlop (Sounds like he might come up, if not Owies) Dow

Marchbank 29 possessions and 10 marks in the VFL gives him the spot over Cowan. Cowan is young and has a future but he's a deer in the headlights at the moment. we need cool, considered decisions out of the back half and he's not there yet. He gets the ball and blasts it. There a time for that but not consistently.
Pitto's 16 disposals, 8 tackles, 8 clearances earns him a recall. We need TDK to gives us a physical target up forward or Charlie will be swamped by Murphy/Moore.

Young, Cowan and Honey go out.


Not a bad side with the 4 ins, but I think you have missed another out here - Ed Curnow?


Sub.


Ah OK, fair enough.

Do you think he's our best option for sub? I suppose it's between him and Dow.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 12:37 pm 
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dow would replace walsh, yeah?


this is the exact kind of game that makes or breaks dow. Stepping in for our best mid in a game we have to win in front of 80k+

he has to get plenty of the ball and be clean. up til this point in his career he hasn't been able to at afl level - he's bottled it.


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Getting Round 3 2001 vibes about this game.


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