Ben.M another tall 1 paced defender,we need tall defenders that have closing SPEED need to find another Liam J

Travesty to lose Liam Jones.
With him we had the AFL's best spine (excluding the ruck, ruck rover and rover)

Young is quicker than Liam, but Liam is a footballer, whereas, imo, Lewis is an athlete.
Someone has to teach him about much needed mongrel. How to Inflict pain and wear down the opposition.
... and to get a move on back off the mark, quick, till an option opens.

Just get off the fkn mark son, and everything changes.

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It feels like the issue with Young is that he can’t or hasn’t learnt to play along side Weits or he can’t play the role assigned to him when Weits is in the side. Either way, last year his best was when he played the key defensive role. My thoughts are play him along side Weits, get the chemistry going and rotate the roles.

Still only 24yo.

He was going OK last year, and this year, with and without Weiters as a 22 and 23yo.
He's got something, and his height and athleticism is gold.
He needs reprogramming.

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Lets see….

if young Young plays the ruck role tomorrow…
he may be the marking option around the ground…!

surely he’ll take more marks than Pitto…!

a different role…may trigger him…!


kindest regards tommi

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Yes, let’s hope he founds a way to impose himself in general play.

This is what Ive been waiting for.
Young in the ruck and lets see if he can take contested marks around the ground, and maybe when resting forward

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I will declare Dow should be given nore time in the seniors.
His kicking was great and he was tough in the clinches.

Another who should be on our lits is Ramshaw. He is Houdini the way he gets out of the clinches.
He is smart and small, like Caleb Daniels is.
I prefer him to Motlop TBH, and I'm mindful Motlop is still young and developing.

Dozzi was another good mid in the VFL, right under our eyes.

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Someone’s been tinkering with your medication Bondi.

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That’s gonna be tough there is no chemistry Weitering plays a lot better when young isn’t around unfortunately that’s the equation

This is my point. We need Young playing. Weitering and Young need to work it out.
There not dating FFS, they are playing football.

Surrey I agree they’re team mates you’d think the coaches can work this out personally I much prefer weitering in the back 6 without young maybe young up the ground on the ball could be one solution

Is Silvagni our first real "moneyball" situation.

TDK vs Silvagni

I just cant get past the fact, i think we get as much our of Silvagni as we do TDK.

This is our first moneyball scenario ...

Do we keep Silvagni and take the picks that come our way for TDK to bring in some youth?

or

Do we move on Silvagni, keep TDK and pay more than he is worth (speculation) and no extra youth talent?

im finding it a real interesting scenario for the club. Forget the names involved, and look at it as a Moneyball scenario and you really start to think Silvangi + Draft Pick, gives us more than TDK.



now, i will say, i have no issue with TDK, think he could be great, but it is a "think" at the moment. Silvagni we know what we have got and isnt going to cost us a fortune and i think a Draft Pick allows other moves to happen..

We're not missing Fisher, Motlop, Durdin, O'brien, Dow... need to look for trades where possible with these guys as steak knives.

Need to groom Cowan to play Doc's role in due course. Cincotta and Kemp coming along very nicely down back.

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I thought Doc played on the wing again?

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Not a true reflection of the success of a relationship that started last year in round 3.
I think you're highlighting 2-3 weeks where young lost form recently and through a blanket over the rest of their time together.

They played together in the first 10 rounds when I thought Young carried the backline for best of 6 games, whilst Weiters was out of form.
Weiters also lost form last year after he did his shoulder.

I don't understand how so many have forgotten about the good Young, the in form Young who kept things simple and looked good.

Some have suggested Weiters and Young had a fallout based on body language after losses. More bullshit.

Form is something that comes and goes.

There was plenty of discussion amongst Carlton posters/ fans to drop Cripps who has been badly out of form, but no one wrote Cripps off like theyre doing with Young.

Just remember, for all Young's faults, all we have as back up around his height is the injury prone Sam Durdin who looked a bit rusty in the air on Saturday.

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obviously not all Young's fault, however, he is one of those (like Newman) who always seems to stop, hesitate and then kick sideways, backwards or to a pack, never plays on and just moves the ball forward quickly. If he can't change that I'd rather find other options. Newman is getting better so it is something that can be improved.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

He pushed up, I think Cowan might play that role beautifully. He's got a wicked peg and can open up play if he gets his possessions further up the ground.

I don't like when we pull the trigger too deep in D50, if we cough it up we're exposed behind the ball. The advantage of taking that kick just a little more towards the middle is that players have more space to work with to spread the defence and the kicks don't have to be quite as precise.

It's one of the beautiful things about our game, the ground is not equally wide in all parts and a well designed system can exploit that both offensively and defensively.

Shits me no end when we do the rushed bomb from 20m out in D50 and oppo players are literally lined up on the arc ready to pounce. Happened a lot against Sydney.

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A couple of observations there is no way we should be looking to get rid of Motlop or Durdin very young but lots of potential
Both more than most suffered from stodgy game plan for that dreadful 8 week period
I see carroll in the same way obviously not as a small forward lots of potential
Its good to now have them Motlop and Durdin fighting for spots as small forwards
Fogarty and owies are ok but no stars and dont have a lot of pace

Young has been bad this year but played well last year can ruck at a pinch and we havent got a lot of key position backman - need to work with him in a few areas

Agree. Motlop especially has a lot of talent.

Carroll needs to stay fit but has ability