Don't mind Gresham. Will be 26 in August. Can play midfield and/or forward. Be nice to have two small indigenous boys causing havoc under the tall timber down there.

when people say "he's injury prone" what are talking?

Cunningham/ Marchbank injury prone, or something more palatable like Doc where he did an acl came back did another one, but again came back well.


his profile is (imo) exactly what we're chasing. creative, crafty small forwards. i wanted to draft rankine over walsh when it happened, such is our need for those dynamic players up front.

our list isn't too bad imo ... we inject 3 or 4, or heaven forbid 5 new players with pace and gears and some disposal ability and we're good to go.

You're assuming that we have one causing havoc already which of course we don't.

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Generally agree but with a FA like Gresham or Jordan it's different. We still have the picks and with possibly 10 changes we can do both.

Ok a few things without sounding like broken record
Two decades ago we got thrown a hamburger with the lot from the AFL for being caught cheating on the cap for the 4 th time
The club went out and got recycled players not kids
Only Scotland was a success
Fast forward 20 years
That philosophy hasn’t completely changed
Based on their efforts at their previous clubs how can you realistically think that Williams and Martin would be gun mids
6 coaching sackings before their contracts are up
Numerus sackings within the footy department
Board disenchanted
The club continually lacks patience for success which is why acquisitions like Martin are fails.
I hope he comes good
If you look at his record he has at a pinch had 2 decent seasons in 11
Hardly fantastic
On the squib issue
You ignore the fact there are a small percentage that never squib
I can name a few if you want
Yeah squib is a nasty word to use
How about soft and lazy which would explain his career to date

Stephen Wells was asked what he saw in Enright
Enright wasn’t exactly a Rolls Royce like Martin when it comes to looking good
Simply put it was his competitiveness
He hated being beaten
Can you honestly say that about Jack Martin
Or three quarters of our list which does come down to who recruits them

Martin is as tough as you want.
Goes where angels fear to tread.
Goes hard at the contest.

That 2nd quarter reminded us of what we have missing.
There's a reason why he was rushed back underdone.

Unfortunately we haven't seen enough of him due to injury.
Hopefully he stays fit for a long period this time.

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I see a bit of that leading under the ball.

His marking in his Coleman year was amazing, unbeatable.

Needs to harden up, and play for keeps....and get that goal kicking sorted...get a coach for him FFS.

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Gresham was also a Carlton supporter.
Wanted him badly to fill the small forward role after Betts, Garlett, Robbo, were out of our club (thanks Mick Malthouse).

Quick, tough and sometimes amongst the goals (not enough in last few years for mine).
Injury prone. Have followed his footy hoping one day he'd want to come to Carlton.

Now glad he's at StKilda and they are paying dearly for an injury prone player.
I doubt we would take him TBH.
He did look great early last year playing midfield.

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Motlop will get there. Has real talent just young. Owies is a good soldier and I think Durdin has improvement yet. Then a fit Martin & Cuningham?

Hopefully we can do some deals and get 3 picks under 20. Then another 1 or 2 before 50
We need min 5 draftees and a rookie
I would keep Cuningham if he gets through the rest of the season. One year base deal

I also hope we keep a couple of spots available to trial some players over the pre season and are able to pick up some players from other leagues

I would hope we are speaking with Gresham Jordan Bergman and Flanders and gauging interest

Is Jack Petruccelle worth chasing? 24, from Vic and WCE are apparently looking at any deal for picks. Certainly has the leg speed

Fisher, McGovern and the Setterfield pick for Port's second rounder from WC please.

Fascinating discussion and I take my hat off to the energy and time some posters put in. Thank you. Given we are all Carlton members, we have a voice and it matters.

The habit of the club (management and board) and the way it continues to act is a mirror to the mixed and sometimes dramatic opinions of its supporter group. We have all grown up with club.

We have some issues without question. However, step back from the drama and there is a lot to build around. Regardless of the how you regarded our situation at the beginning of the season, I doubt anyone of us - club and supporters alike - would have expected to be at the bottom end of the table.

It a matter of building rather than the same old Carlton (including us) looking for the massive change.

And as much as we like to think it’s a catastrophe, we have many at other clubs that believe we have more positives than not. They would offer some tweaks to the list and adjusting the game plan.

If I had one wish, it would be to try out players in different positions. Whatever it is lets try some things, have some fun doing it and put it all in the learning basket for action at the end of year.

Our small forwards cause plenty of havoc

...to my mental health

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I agree.

I really would like to see new players give a chance, old players tried in new positions, basically just experiment and use this time for teaching/development. Funnily enough I can see the effort and I think the bones are there of a really good side. We do need some speed and we need to get better with our better players - if Cripps/Walsh/Doc etc are sore, rest them...now. Rest them and play Dow, Play Binns, try Curnow somewhere, play plowman and the 3rd forward, anything, anything to mix things up and change the mindset cos at the moment mindset is broken.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Yep!

Jade Gresham;


2016 - 18 games
2017 - 22 games
2018 - 22 games
2019 - 19 games
2020 - 11 games
2021 - 3 games
2022 - 18 games
2023 - 11 games thus far


I wish Marchbank, Cuningham and Martin were that injury prone.

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was great while the eagles were not a rabble, i'd certainly take him

if cunners could stay injury free for the rest of the year, he should get one more year, but if he gets injured again, he would unlikely to be kept, which is a great shame

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my last one was rubbish

Gresham is exactly what we need. Free agent, goal kicking mid.
As long as the dollars are right, I'd be keen. We have no equivalent player on our list.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

someone said bcos his confidence kicking for goal is so shot, he's sabotaging his marking, and putting down easy ones, bcos it means more set shots for goal.

and that made so much sense to me. how one aspect of his game has poisoned everything. hope he turns it around. this weekend, 100th game. might be a good time for it