There were at least 2 opportunities for gimmies on the weekend. One when Charlie kicked it from HF and it went through for a point when if he had centered it Martin was 20m out directly in front.

come on mate ... gimmes aren't from 60 metres out, or even at the arc. and martin stayed the entire game on the flank and never came inwards.


I'm talking running in on open goal bcos we've totally broken down an opponent, or smashed them on a turnover. you know, like how other teams do it?


also we don't have a single mid with 10 goals. not even a goal a game. you don't win footy like that, with this flawed system and this poor structure and set up and coaching. you just don't.

I genuinely can’t recall the last time we had a player run into an open goal. I guess when you kick 6 a week the chances are reduced.

Cincotta was the closest we’ve been.

Cincotta was the closest we’ve been.

David parkin would be close to world record holder for using the term bona fide.

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Tapa on Android is completely reliable and a great way to read the site.

AFL media industry seems eager to see Voss sacked.

That's almost reason alone not to sack him.

a mate of mine who played seniors with uni blues asked me “if Fev played his career for collingwood would he even get away with bagging the pies in public?” what would the players from his era do to him behind the scenes to pull him into line the fist time he was a little sook who obviously didn’t get enough time out in his own room as a player?

what does that say about our past players? some are maybe friends of people on here. what does that say about the carlton culture, historically and today?

to me the biggest downsides of blues success in the past was we just raided SA and WA and bought premierships. sure, they needed to play a good brand of football but individual brilliance always lifts merely good teammates playing around them. the payments under the table to two of my favorite players of all time by Eliot was ugly. heck Eliot himself was a sleazy bloke on multiple levels.

the crony capitalism model suited a “we’re Carlton F%#€ the rest, we’re the best” won us some premierships for sure in the VFL era when i grew up watching three Carlton games every saturday. but i suspect we failed to evolve when the VFL became AFL and developed into a more sophisticated marketing and product focused institution.

we didn’t get the model was now some kind of socialist-lite meritocracy, not a winner takes all, private money talks kind of world anymore. salary caps for players and footy departments, the draft rewarding losers! was like the upside down world has come to town. we carried on thinking we could just buy our way to success and fill the admin with past great players (and Sticks, no5 , SOS and diesel were all exceptional players) and it would take care of itself. but they didn’t know this knew world. mates rates didn’t cut it anymore. drafting players and list management required real patience and consideration of a huge number of things to optimise for, win/lose to keep the fans buying memberships, developing players for the future, understanding the evolution of the game and players required for the game in five to ten years time. sometimes we guessed wrong, drafting for running/repeat sprint capacity over kicking skills and footy nouse. thinking we could invent 18 Koutas just recruiting raw athletes with no natural flair for AFL.

but end of the day we made Fev (i blame pagan a bit, did same to Carey pumping up his ego until it was out of control and he cared about nobody but himself and his vanity). and we are still letting him disrespect the jumper. there’s obviously no ties that bind as far as Fev is concerned, even though he was a super talent. what kind of club are we?

Tapatalk is total crap on iphone. freezes mid sentence all the time. locks up sometimes and have to reboot. triple posts as a result.


when can we move this shit show to Discord? pay me $100 and i’ll set it up to mirror the current sight as best i can. it’s like comparing a Tesla and an FJ.

come on mate ... gimmes aren't from 60 metres out, or even at the arc. and martin stayed the entire game on the flank and never came inwards.


I'm talking running in on open goal bcos we've totally broken down an opponent, or smashed them on a turnover. you know, like how other teams do it?


also we don't have a single mid with 10 goals. not even a goal a game. you don't win footy like that, with this flawed system and this poor structure and set up and coaching. you just don't.

Following poor recent performances, the pair told coach Chris Fagan on Monday that they weren’t happy with their form and subsequently felt they didn’t warrant being selected in the senior side.

Both Gunston and Rich will now step away from any form of competitive football and will undertake a training block to freshen themselves up.

Brisbane veterans Daniel Rich and Jack Gunston have stood themselves down indefinitely due to concerns they feel they’re not up to playing AFL footy.

Neither will play in the AFL or VFL this weekend, with both set to undergo a mid-season training block to freshen up in the run to September.

Brisbane veterans Daniel Rich and Jack Gunston have stood themselves down indefinitely due to concerns they feel they’re not up to playing AFL footy.

Neither will play in the AFL or VFL this weekend, with both set to undergo a mid-season training block to freshen up in the run to September.


Lions coach Chris Fagan has confirmed that neither Rich or Gunston will play for a little while.

“Both those guys aren’t going to play this week and they’re not going to play for a little while,” Fagan told a press conference on Thursday morning.

“Both lads came to me on Monday and wanted to have a chat about their football. They’re not happy with the way they’re playing at the moment, they believe their form doesn’t warrant selection.

I have no idea what youre talking about, but if you are right, then lets do it.


If the moderators agree and the rest agree, I'll send you the $100 tomorrow.

I'm still a Voss fan but he needs to take down the hero posters from his office and treat every player the same. Playing favourites (as he initially should) has failed and it's time to select on merit.