Negatives only apparently

The club List is beyond ordinary
That’s not an overstatement
The way the game has evolved with the 6 6 6 rule and standing on the mark rule our list has become redundant very quickly
Start the rebuild again
McKay is simply not hard enough and is a thick footballer
Cripps has been great obviously but the game has passed him busy quickly
The guy can’t run and is one dimensional
Both thought have currency
I would be happy to do a Grundy/ Treloar trade and pay some of their contract
Frees up
Salary cap space
DeKoning simply isn’t tough enough
Lacks mongrel which all ruckman need
That’s 3 extra first round picks at least
The club must be bold during trade period
Do the opposite
Trade players whilst they have currency
Rather than the opposite
Build your list from the ground up
Have them the Camporeale twins and first round picks as well as Cowan Binns Hollands with Walsh leading being the base for success
Because this list is crap

Kemp Akuei Lemmey all coming through and we can recruit others. 3rd talls aren’t the issue. IMO Silvagni is a tall defender. I’d keep S.Durdin

Those wanting McKay traded are crazy. You forget how hard it is to get a KPP. ? And how good he is when confident.

We need hard working mids that can deliver the ball properly to the forward line. And a medium size forward. And a small forward that can create pressure.

Losing the midfield battles are a big big problem for us. And when we go forward, it’s a shit entry.

Losing midfield also is making the backs all scattered.

Cripps, Walsh have been rubbish. No other support in there at all. No one to run and bounce. No hardness.

Ask yourself this question
What has McKay achieved in 8 years
8 years is enough to make a serious judgment of a player
One good year
That’s it
In short Big H has the tools but not the brain
As usual the club jumped the gun and signed him on a Buddy style contract
He ain’t Franklin
He never will be
The club has tucked up their List Management
How much evidence do you need
Trade him whilst he has currency
Goals are more often kicked by system
A plethora of different options
Not by 2 key forwards
We aren’t playing in the 80s anymore

Melbourne won a flag by the length of the Flemington straight with
McDonald Fritsch and Brown
Enough said

Except our Fritsch is Martin . Enough said .

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Well Fritsch was a mature aged recruit from the VFL who would of been on 150000
Now probably 600000 tops
Martin will cost us around 3 million over 5 years with the heart of grape seed

Yes " K " , that too . Still , if Martin could get himself right he would make a massive difference .

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Tell me
Based on 11 years of evidence what’s good about him

Season is over. We will now be in a position to throw this year's and next year's first round picks for Westcoast's first rounder. We know that the McGovern boys want to play together ... so give them Mitch as a sweetener. From now on start playing Binns Dow Carroll and Cowan. Also start looking at a new coach or coaching strategy. 2023 is Over.
Another wasted year!

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thats a massive if mick. this bloke has a body made of glass, and the intestinal fortitude of keogh's grape. i remember cripps being rapt we got him, talking about his skills, saying he was the most skilled player he had ever seen or something like that. he does have great skills, which he shows for the five minutes he tries per game. massive waste of money this bloke

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my last one was rubbish

how exactly is giving mitch to west coast a sweetener for them? i dare say they would rather have covid....

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Yep, I'm with Mick. Watch the second quarter (our best for the game) and Martin was easily our most productive forward. He just lacks match practice due to injury. As for his "intestinal fortitude", that's just bullshit. Martin is as courageous as anyone.
He hasn't been value to date due to injury but he didn't cost us a draft pick and we are paying him no more than market value.

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What has McKay achieved in 8 years
8 years is enough to make a serious judgment of a player

$900K for a player who leads himself under the ball to avoid contact?
Not for me. He is playing like McKernan did in his last few years leading under the ball.

Big " if " for sure Ben but still maintain he changes our dynamics . Not gonna harp back 11 years coz that is old news and its the here and now i'm interested in . Reckon his first half against the Dons opened up our forward line . We should have had 'em then and there .

I think we all agree we are crying out for that third marking forward whether Frisch , Martin . I would be giving Kemp a crack at it myself . Takes a grab , got a bit of toe , and a big kick . And a bit of much needed mongrel . Still remember in Adelaide when we we copped a flogging how Tex tried it on with Kempy and he went right back at him . Only highlight of the game . Straight away i said we have found one here .

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With all due respect he is a squib
The guy is as soft as warm butter
Watch him
Like McGovern when he has to put his body on the line he doesn’t
I remember Simmo’s last game which was at The Gabba
In the second quarter he had to go in and didn’t
Result goal to McCartney
Just yet another example of shit List Management
Good on him for raking 2.4 million so far for a couple of single quarter highlights

I do watch him. I go to games and watch who runs hard when they don't have the ball. Who busts a gut to make space. Who does the unrewarded stuff that doesn't necessarily result in a possession or a goal. Martin does it.
As for being a squib, that's rubbish. Where it's his turn to go, Martin is more reliable at committing to the contest that most of our list.
As for McGovern, yep he's soft. But him and Martin have nothing in common.

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Yeah Vain , thats the other thing i forgot to mention . He aint a squib . Close to the best tackler we have . Nobody breaks his tackles , they stick .

Now Vain , i know you aint a Kemp fan . I reckon he would be a great third forward . How do you reckon he would go ? and any ideas yourself on that position . We gotta bolster that area badly for mine . Too much on Harry and Charles at the moment .

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2nd in the competition for contested marks
1st in the competition for marks on a lead.
Needs to sort his kicking out.
He is also about the only forward we have that will chase and tackle.

This week Keogh instead of looking at the results and coming on here banging on about the list and the board just once try watching the game

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