Philp can't stay. Body no good
Sam Durdin I would keep. Was playing well before Hamstring
Cuningham I would delist and give him pre season and rookie if he gets through
Ed, Marchbank, McGovern (Trade) Fogarty Plowman Honey Dow need to go
Definitely trade McGovern & TDK

I see 10 changes if we can get the picks

Is 21yo Philp's body no good? Yet the injury prone Sam Durdin is?
Not sure about the fairness in your judgement. But that's Ok.
Its your personal choice and we want to hear that.

Is 21yo Honey not worth developing?
Not sure if that's fair for someone so young.

If we are going to write off the youth taking up list space the...

What about the slow small forwards? They're under contract. So they survive.

If you look at all your delistings and trades, you need to know what you're going to get for them in terms of traded in players and pick number in the draft. ie sure, get 10 out and bring 10 in but not picks 95, 119, 142....those picks are reserved for the likes of player dumps like Raplmer from GWS, and that's the quality you will get, unless its SAFL, WAFL and VFL players on our radar....but that's the successful domain of other teams, unless Austin has a few tricks.

We can trade out our first for next year if that will be sucked up matching a pick for Camporeale next year

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Need to do something along these lines (rough numbers)

Trade TDK to Swans for Pick 15 and maybe swap of other picks
Keep Pick 4
Trade future first to GCS (they have a kid that will go top 10 they need to bid). Gives us Pick 10
Trade McGovern for Pick 33
Delist Cuningham (re rookie) Marchbank Dow Fogarty Plowman Honey Ed Curnow Philp
Delist mature players and replacing w Draftees makes room in Salary Cap as does trading TDK & McGovern
Try and get FA's in Gresham & Jordan

Go to draft with Picks 4, 10, 15, 33, 58 and hopefully a few more
Add 1-2 Free Agents
and hopefully 1-3 nice cheap players from DFA or other leagues

We need a Ruckman, a KPP and run all with decent skills

Philp can't get through training let along play. Fragile
Durdin has had one injury since coming to club after a couple of years without issue

Durdin did his medial ligament in his first game for us, now has a hamstring.

I dont know about Philps injury, but he did do a modifield preseason before playing a few games, tackling and kicking a goal, so he obviously did get through training without injury.
Not sure if he's been written off. I guess that depends on whther his body is in fact fragile. Who knows?

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I agree that three first-round picks is the way to go here, and am happy to be swayed on it, as I can't say I've studied the draft crop well enough to comment on how effective it would be.

An argument that we've got as many as fourteen list cloggers who need to go (let alone another dozen who could go for strategic reasons), and no cap space or adequate current crop of draft picks to effectively replace them, I probably won't be swayed on though.

By not going down that path, you're effectively saying, yep, delist Cuningham and get this year's Michael Gibbons at Pick 140 instead.

Are these Pelican’s assessments?

He who was party to a hate crime? No wonder he says to keep Akuei. He’s doing himself a Wilkinson.

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Philp needs a miracle. Age is irrelevant if he’s bone-on-bone in the hips. It’s sad, but shit happens. He’s got bigger problems than elite footy.

The prize has been right in front of Honey, completely unguarded, from day one. We drafted two more of his type since he came to us & they went past him at a rate of knots.

I’m not overly invested in Durdin the taller, but it’s better to be looking at it than looking for it.

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I thought Philp had a foot injury. Sad to read bone on bone in the hip. That's awful.

Who are the 2 Honey types who have gone past him?
I thought HF was a real problem for us as are the small forwards.

Getting rid of Honey doesn't get us much. Developing may.
Pick 96 (if Honey delisting is amongst another 9 players). That's all I'm saying.
Holman improved. He was delisted and spoken of along the same lines as Honey is with supporters.

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talk of trading no9 ,would he be interested in the Dockers opportunity to play finals ,but what do we get in return ?

They got no draft picks either and given they traded their first 2 picks this year as part of the Jackson trade last year, pretty sure they can't trade next years picks.
So unless we want a player or AFL bends the rules (always possible), a Freo trade wont happen.
Either way, anything is possible, but can't see us trading our captain. Not saying we shouldn't if its beneficial, but can't see it happening.

I'm sure that would do wonders to the playing groups confidence!

So we get rid of PLowman, Marchbank, Sam Durdin and McGovern? That leaves us with Weitering and Young as tall backs. Not sure that will happen.
My guess at the moment is Ed, Plowman and Fogarty to be delisted. Anyone else will be dependent on who is available from outside the club and what the draft is like.

So lets say we stay where we are and go to the trade period with pick 4 and choose to split it, what can we expect in return?
I assume Melbourne have 2 rounders (there's and Freo's?) anyone else? Do we demand one of those picks be inside the top 10 and the other in the teens? Would we get that or would both picks be outside the top 10?

I know it seems to be a bit of a fait accompli on here that he's going to get delisted, and I'm going to get hosed for this, but has anyone considered that Plowman is a 'glue guy' and we should be keeping him and playing him. Individually he often looks like a turnip, but maybe he does enough stuff that helps out the rest of the back 6 to play to their potential. Plenty of 1%, plenty of voice and direction, always seems to do team things. I know we want everyone to be a super awesome elite kicking rebounding HBF or wall of a KPD or amazing intercept marker and I acknowledge he is none of these things - but maybe that's not what we need down back. And maybe the players around him would appreciate him being there.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

Wonder if Marlion Pickett is still wanted

He ticks the "played really good in a grand final once" box.

You got me Heavs
I was convinced up till the mentioning of amazing and Plowman.
Good ordinary player, yes, but amazing at nothing but resilience, but may be the reason his game may suffer
Solid cictizen.
But keeping him and delisting kids does my head in.
Plow isnt part of the Premiership tilt.
This was his year imo. Injury may have created opportunity in Finals.
Did I say Finals?

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Depressing.

Hobbs was a first round pick. And is yet to establish himself.
Dodoro also used pick 8 on Nik Cox who cant get on the field and pick 10 on Zac Reid who also cant get on the field.
Forget drinking the Essendon* Kool Aid and look at the whole story. Austin bought in Cerra who is probably leading our B&F, recruited Hollands and Binns who look the goods, as does Cowan. I also expect Corey Durdin to become a high quality AFL player.
Or are we here to focus on the negatives only?

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