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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 9:29 am 
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Mickstar wrote:
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"There are players that are starting to wonder if they in fact have the right system. There are opposition clubs that I have spoken to over the weekend that believe Carlton do not have a discernible game plan.

"There are players at Carlton who don't want to be playing with one another. There are factions developing within the playing group as well.

"There is at least one situation that I know of inside the Carlton dressing room between a couple of players which has caused issues within the team."


Cliques and factions have been part of Footy Clubs since Adam was a boy . Even in Premiership teams . Just a copout for mine .


Yes, Mick. Of course there would be some grumbles. We are sliding and it’s a competitive environment.

Sam McLure makes money by creating drama. Soaking in it. He knows it sells. Like free to air news and current affairs.

And as is everything with McLure, it’s about the story and embellishing it, no facts. Collingwood don’t believe we have a clear game plan, of course there would be others. I don’t either.

McLure is quoted from his radio show that it’s sacrilege to stop supporting your team. And I have heard straight from his horses mouth that he won’t support the blues anymore. He lacks integrity.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:44 am 
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Mickstar wrote:

And i would suggest B is dependant on A .


And I would suggest B can be independent of A

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:48 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
"There are players that are starting to wonder if they in fact have the right system. There are opposition clubs that I have spoken to over the weekend that believe Carlton do not have a discernible game plan.

"There are players at Carlton who don't want to be playing with one another. There are factions developing within the playing group as well.

"There is at least one situation that I know of inside the Carlton dressing room between a couple of players which has caused issues within the team."



Sam McLure is not convincing. In that report he contradicts himself. Click bait.

Sam isn't helping Carlton one single bit with his rubbish, he's helping out Sam.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:50 am 
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Braithy wrote:
if that's true - i'd actually trade weitering for picks at the end of the year - he'd have fairly high to maybe even enormous value for another team. bring in mckay for less $$ as a like-for-like ... that might help the other mckay to somehow kick straight.

weitering can play, but he doesn't have an edge, can disappear for weeks at a time and seems too nice to be CHB. controversial, i know. but, still...



As a leader he shouldnt be belittling Young, and Weiters jon, and its in his interest is to only help Young get better.
I don't believe the comment. I call bullshit that its an ongoing feud (which its made out to be by posters).
I can believe they had a disagreement about something. If so, that's great.

Other than pointing out, "that was you're man" what don't they see eye to eye with?
Think about it.

They are a tight knit group. Even Dow loves the group.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:58 am 
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Weiters-Young is the gossip I refused to air last week, ah well, hello cat, hope the bag wasn't too tight for your liking. :)

Anyway, whatever. Mo Salah and Sadio Mané allegedly didn't get along (probably BS) and they won everything together. Michael Jordan decked Steve Kerr and Scottie Pippen was jealous of Toni Kukoc and refused to play in the closing minutes of a Conference final decider (both verified) and they won 6 titles. Just need to funnel the rage in the right direction.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:10 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
if that's true - i'd actually trade weitering for picks at the end of the year - he'd have fairly high to maybe even enormous value for another team. bring in mckay for less $$ as a like-for-like ... that might help the other mckay to somehow kick straight.

weitering can play, but he doesn't have an edge, can disappear for weeks at a time and seems too nice to be CHB. controversial, i know. but, still...



As a leader he shouldnt be belittling Young, and Weiters jon, and its in his interest is to only help Young get better.
I don't believe the comment. I call bullshit that its an ongoing feud (which its made out to be by posters).
I can believe they had a disagreement about something. If so, that's great.

Other than pointing out, "that was you're man" what don't they see eye to eye with?
Think about it.

They are a tight knit group. Even Dow loves the group.

Maybe Lew is a really big fan of making jokes about Nigerian princes and identity theft.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:41 am 
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Heavs wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
if that's true - i'd actually trade weitering for picks at the end of the year - he'd have fairly high to maybe even enormous value for another team. bring in mckay for less $$ as a like-for-like ... that might help the other mckay to somehow kick straight.

weitering can play, but he doesn't have an edge, can disappear for weeks at a time and seems too nice to be CHB. controversial, i know. but, still...



As a leader he shouldnt be belittling Young, and Weiters jon, and its in his interest is to only help Young get better.
I don't believe the comment. I call bullshit that its an ongoing feud (which its made out to be by posters).
I can believe they had a disagreement about something. If so, that's great.

Other than pointing out, "that was you're man" what don't they see eye to eye with?
Think about it.

They are a tight knit group. Even Dow loves the group.

Maybe Lew is a really big fan of making jokes about Nigerian princes and identity theft.
Lol! That'd do it.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to what these girls bitch about. No offence to the lovely ladies who frequent TC.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:05 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Weiters-Young is the gossip I refused to air last week, ah well, hello cat, hope the bag wasn't too tight for your liking. :)

Anyway, whatever. Mo Salah and Sadio Mané allegedly didn't get along (probably BS) and they won everything together. Michael Jordan decked Steve Kerr and Scottie Pippen was jealous of Toni Kukoc and refused to play in the closing minutes of a Conference final decider (both verified) and they won 6 titles. Just need to funnel the rage in the right direction.



I see why you didnt air the gossip.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:37 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
"There are players that are starting to wonder if they in fact have the right system. There are opposition clubs that I have spoken to over the weekend that believe Carlton do not have a discernible game plan.

"There are players at Carlton who don't want to be playing with one another. There are factions developing within the playing group as well.

"There is at least one situation that I know of inside the Carlton dressing room between a couple of players which has caused issues within the team."



Sam McLure is not convincing. In that report he contradicts himself. Click bait.

Sam isn't helping Carlton one single bit with his rubbish, he's helping out Sam.


The exact stuff was reported by Sam Edmunds on SEN at the end of Teague's reign.

Obviously alot of fun coaching Carlton.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:44 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
if that's true - i'd actually trade weitering for picks at the end of the year - he'd have fairly high to maybe even enormous value for another team. bring in mckay for less $$ as a like-for-like ... that might help the other mckay to somehow kick straight.

weitering can play, but he doesn't have an edge, can disappear for weeks at a time and seems too nice to be CHB. controversial, i know. but, still...



As a leader he shouldnt be belittling Young, and Weiters jon, and its in his interest is to only help Young get better.
I don't believe the comment. I call bullshit that its an ongoing feud (which its made out to be by posters).
I can believe they had a disagreement about something. If so, that's great.

Other than pointing out, "that was you're man" what don't they see eye to eye with?
Think about it.

They are a tight knit group. Even Dow loves the group.



it's true. go to a game - weiters refuses to acknowledge or even talk to young on the field. it's noticeable

there's some damning vision also doing the rounds - dees kicked a goal bcos LOB didn't track his man all the way back to a ball-up.

after that goal, there's no talk in the huddle. nothing. no one back there is a leader and you can see on film - there's an iciness to young & weiters. More of the guys seem to be getting around young than weiters too, fwiw


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:02 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
"There are players that are starting to wonder if they in fact have the right system. There are opposition clubs that I have spoken to over the weekend that believe Carlton do not have a discernible game plan.

"There are players at Carlton who don't want to be playing with one another. There are factions developing within the playing group as well.

"There is at least one situation that I know of inside the Carlton dressing room between a couple of players which has caused issues within the team."


Cliques and factions have been part of Footy Clubs since Adam was a boy . Even in Premiership teams . Just a copout for mine .


Hands up if you've ever had to work (or play sport) alongside someone you can't stand.

*puts up both hands as high as I can*


Issue is as long as there rift doesn't affect the way the side plays.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:31 pm 
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jim wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
"There are players that are starting to wonder if they in fact have the right system. There are opposition clubs that I have spoken to over the weekend that believe Carlton do not have a discernible game plan.

"There are players at Carlton who don't want to be playing with one another. There are factions developing within the playing group as well.

"There is at least one situation that I know of inside the Carlton dressing room between a couple of players which has caused issues within the team."


Cliques and factions have been part of Footy Clubs since Adam was a boy . Even in Premiership teams . Just a copout for mine .


Hands up if you've ever had to work (or play sport) alongside someone you can't stand.

*puts up both hands as high as I can*


Issue is as long as there rift doesn't affect the way the side plays.


Exactly Jim . Geez , go back to the Parko days . There were the drinkers , and there were the non drinkers . And there were the party boys , and the non party boys . But they all loved Parko and would do anything for him . Plenty of the them referred to Parko as the nutty professor and some reckoned he was an out and out nutter . They used to take the piss out of the bloke behind his back . But like i said , they loved the bloke despite his quirky ways and went to WAR for the bloke .

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:33 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Exactly Jim . Geez , go back to the Parko days . There were the drinkers , and there were the non drinkers . And there were the party boys , and the non party boys .


You mean... the extroverts and the introverts? :D


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:38 pm 
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This is what a captain is for. Figure it out. Put the gloves on after training if need be.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:45 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
This is what a captain is for. Figure it out. Put the gloves on after training if need be.



if this was facebook, i wouldn't like this post. i'd loveheart it.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:59 pm 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
This is what a captain is for. Figure it out. Put the gloves on after training if need be.


Was speaking to an ex-player recently about the Walls departure in 89'.

Wasn't liked, lost the players badly.

Getting them to 'put the gloves on' won't help

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:49 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
DocSherrin III wrote:
This is what a captain is for. Figure it out. Put the gloves on after training if need be.


Was speaking to an ex-player recently about the Walls departure in 89'.

Wasn't liked, lost the players badly.

Getting them to 'put the gloves on' won't help



a couple things:

Voss still has most of the room engaged and connected. So a few players in the backline (who must work as a unit and talk, aren't) gloves on can work.

It's better than sitting on hands and doing nothing. right now, trying something is better than doing nothing.

why isn't cripps in the middle of all this finding a way to sort it out? If weiters & young hate each other, changing coach doesn't fix that tension.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:56 pm 
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Do we even know this is true it’s coming from the Pooper Scooper

The man that says Kreuz was absolutely going to Collingwood
I smell BS and obviously classified not going well in the ratings so Pooper Caro (ie Cripps didn’t stay with the team)and no brains Cornes are trying to outdo each other with Carlton stories
Like Cripps didn’t stay with the team I call BS Pooper


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:10 pm 
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On ya Franky
Good to see you fighting the fight for the club
If only those within the four walls had the same fight as you we might not be the worst performing club of the 21st century
Really disappointing to be 14th 8 years into rebuild with 0 finals to show


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:14 pm 
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Bring a new captain in. Brighton Diggins it!


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